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The Job's F'D .. change my mind

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The Job's F'D .. change my mind

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100% agree mate end of royal mail end of cwu thank you Simon
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Well informative as ever we don't need comments but solutions though it is a s**t deal.
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To be honest a lot of long term members are thinking the same you can see it on their faces... You probably won't get anyone of sane mind to convince you otherwise 🤬😭
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The job always gets worse after every revision or negotiation.
Normally it’s a small change or a couple of alterations but this time is an all out demolition job.

I guess people will just have to either adjust or look elsewhere. The CWU has stopped fighting. The later finishes are coming. The minimum wage is ever nearer.

I’m not sure I can change your mind except to say that the job is no longer what it was.
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FilthyBloke wrote:
23 Apr 2023, 16:44
The job always gets worse after every revision or negotiation.
Normally it’s a small change or a couple of alterations but this time is an all out demolition job.

I guess people will just have to either adjust or look elsewhere. The CWU has stopped fighting. The later finishes are coming. The minimum wage is ever nearer.

I’m not sure I can change your mind except to say that the job is no longer what it was.
£11:59 to go through walls all our life it is not fair and who would do it day in day out?
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This is why some people are happy enough to take it as far as they can. And i can sort of see why, may as well just burn the house down its not worth saving for the future, i dont think it would ever really get to this but if i was younger i would be all for it. Seems to be the way of things and until somebody tackles the problem of these big business models and brings them to heel i think the original statement is correct, were all fecked!!
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I'm already applying for jobs on less money but less stress but can't wait to get out of this s..t show :Boo hoo!
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Post by 2yearpostie »

k979aaa wrote:
23 Apr 2023, 16:48
FilthyBloke wrote:
23 Apr 2023, 16:44
The job always gets worse after every revision or negotiation.
Normally it’s a small change or a couple of alterations but this time is an all out demolition job.

I guess people will just have to either adjust or look elsewhere. The CWU has stopped fighting. The later finishes are coming. The minimum wage is ever nearer.

I’m not sure I can change your mind except to say that the job is no longer what it was.
£11:59 to go through walls all our life it is not fair and who would do it day in day out?
Dont get this its currently £13.31 ( inc del supp) p/h and will be £14.60 by 2025 ( if a yes vote), Lets not forget we arent putting ourselfs in halms way like an amry private or PC nor are we saving lives like a nurse or junior doc, we work hard but really its just pushing some paper through a door or handing a parcel over.
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Post by 2yearpostie »

Bellaber wrote:
23 Apr 2023, 16:56
I'm already applying for jobs on less money but less stress but can't wait to get out of this s..t show :Boo hoo!
intrested, what doing?
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scotchy1962 wrote:
23 Apr 2023, 16:55
This is why some people are happy enough to take it as far as they can. And i can sort of see why, may as well just burn the house down its not worth saving for the future, i dont think it would ever really get to this but if i was younger i would be all for it. Seems to be the way of things and until somebody tackles the problem of these big business models and brings them to heel i think the original statement is correct, were all fecked!!
It's not just RM 99.9% of the wealth is in .01 of the people who abuse us all day in day out.
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Post by sweepster70 »

Bellaber wrote:
23 Apr 2023, 16:56
I'm already applying for jobs on less money but less stress but can't wait to get out of this s..t show :Boo hoo!



How do you know it'll be less stress until you're doing it?
Why aren't you applying for jobs on more money?
Bellaber
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Post by Bellaber »

I'm not skilled in anything,applied for a porters hospital job been in the job 25 years less brutal on the body and inside nice and warm and I'm 58
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Post by postslippete »

2yearpostie wrote:
23 Apr 2023, 16:58

Dont get this its currently £13.31 ( inc del supp) p/h and will be £14.60 by 2025 ( if a yes vote), Lets not forget we arent putting ourselfs in halms way like an amry private or PC nor are we saving lives like a nurse or junior doc, we work hard but really its just pushing some paper through a door or handing a parcel over.

I'm afraid the business are thinking like you. 1yearpostie is on even less money than 2yearpostie and I'm not sure they even get the delivery supplement.
On the face of it, shareholder value is the dumbest idea in the world.
scotchy1962
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Post by scotchy1962 »

2yearpostie wrote:
23 Apr 2023, 16:58
k979aaa wrote:
23 Apr 2023, 16:48
FilthyBloke wrote:
23 Apr 2023, 16:44
The job always gets worse after every revision or negotiation.
Normally it’s a small change or a couple of alterations but this time is an all out demolition job.

I guess people will just have to either adjust or look elsewhere. The CWU has stopped fighting. The later finishes are coming. The minimum wage is ever nearer.

I’m not sure I can change your mind except to say that the job is no longer what it was.
£11:59 to go through walls all our life it is not fair and who would do it day in day out?
Dont get this its currently £13.31 ( inc del supp) p/h and will be £14.60 by 2025 ( if a yes vote), Lets not forget we arent putting ourselfs in halms way like an amry private or PC nor are we saving lives like a nurse or junior doc, we work hard but really its just pushing some paper through a door or handing a parcel over.
Yet again 2yr another flippant dig at our job. "Just pushing paper through a door" if you are a postie you know its a lot more than that or we wouldnt be complaining and we would have accepted the deal already. Proper piece of work you are, glad i am fighting for your terms and conditions for you!!
Must be a joy to be around, blokes like you make retirement not come quick enough.