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Automatic re-delivery from 2 May

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pieoftheday
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Re: Automatic re-delivery from 2 May

Post by pieoftheday »

rambo1 wrote:
17 Apr 2023, 20:12
Crazy idea. As a customer if i'm not in I want to be able to get my parcel the next day , not have to wait another day! Also will need to get some 739's printed out coz we're down to our last few in our office.
You'll be getting completely different 739s in may :Very Happy
neviboss
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Re: Automatic re-delivery from 2 May

Post by neviboss »

God, imagine if you worked somewhere with a sink estate, and no safe places & dodgy neighbours. I 🤔
eastie
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Re: Automatic re-delivery from 2 May

Post by eastie »

on my round most of them work fulltime so never home, usually collect from callers, never doorstep so we are going to take out the parcel twice and bring it back twice?
What are fulltime workers going to do if they are not in during the day?
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Re: Automatic re-delivery from 2 May

Post by rambo1 »

clashcityrocker wrote:
17 Apr 2023, 19:09
ted_e_bear wrote:
17 Apr 2023, 18:56
I'm still struggling to see how this is a good idea, currently if we leave a card the recipient can choose to have the item redelivered when it's convenient for them rather than us automatically bringing it back the next day when it's unlikely they'll be in, so what's the advantage?
Apparently the trial office managed to redeliver 70% of the parcels which otherwise would have been 739d, thus saving on the booking in time, redelivery palaver and Customer Service Point time.
You say booking in time but what will actually be done with the pkts you bring back? Surely they will still need to be booked on at callers office to be put out again for auto redelivery? Or do we just leave them by the frame to get mixed up with the current days pkts. Imagine you get another couple of pkts on Tuesday for the same address you had a couple of pkts for on Monday! This is seriously messed up :arrrghhh
BigSacks
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Re: Automatic re-delivery from 2 May

Post by BigSacks »

:shhhhh
rambo1 wrote:
17 Apr 2023, 22:17
clashcityrocker wrote:
17 Apr 2023, 19:09
ted_e_bear wrote:
17 Apr 2023, 18:56
I'm still struggling to see how this is a good idea, currently if we leave a card the recipient can choose to have the item redelivered when it's convenient for them rather than us automatically bringing it back the next day when it's unlikely they'll be in, so what's the advantage?
Apparently the trial office managed to redeliver 70% of the parcels which otherwise would have been 739d, thus saving on the booking in time, redelivery palaver and Customer Service Point time.
You say booking in time but what will actually be done with the pkts you bring back? Surely they will still need to be booked on at callers office to be put out again for auto redelivery? Or do we just leave them by the frame to get mixed up with the current days pkts. Imagine you get another couple of pkts on Tuesday for the same address you had a couple of pkts for on Monday! This is seriously messed up :arrrghhh
You’ll leave them at your frame after you “book them in”yourself via the indoor tile on your PDA
Groundpounder
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Re: Automatic re-delivery from 2 May

Post by Groundpounder »

Not about whether it works all about the share holders, successful trials you say but of course they are :chuckle just like all the other successful trials we've had .Mail volumes' falling for decades yes but at the rate they said all those years ago I must be only taking one or two letters out a day ,many different uniform trials all wonderful not a leaking waterproof insight I'm in bloody clover and what makes me the happiest is knowing I'm going to fill the pockets of those with the most already.
Packets will go missing redelivery requests will go unfulfilled because no one will know where they are the SPS system will be full of them
sindba
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Re: Automatic re-delivery from 2 May

Post by sindba »

Also will Royal Mail stop using this "your friendly postie" bullshit in their ads.

People like and trust US, the workers, because we've earned it. Yet in private the company treats us like s**t.
pinstripe
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Re: Automatic re-delivery from 2 May

Post by pinstripe »

BigSacks wrote:
17 Apr 2023, 22:34
:shhhhh
rambo1 wrote:
17 Apr 2023, 22:17
clashcityrocker wrote:
17 Apr 2023, 19:09
ted_e_bear wrote:
17 Apr 2023, 18:56
I'm still struggling to see how this is a good idea, currently if we leave a card the recipient can choose to have the item redelivered when it's convenient for them rather than us automatically bringing it back the next day when it's unlikely they'll be in, so what's the advantage?
Apparently the trial office managed to redeliver 70% of the parcels which otherwise would have been 739d, thus saving on the booking in time, redelivery palaver and Customer Service Point time.
You say booking in time but what will actually be done with the pkts you bring back? Surely they will still need to be booked on at callers office to be put out again for auto redelivery? Or do we just leave them by the frame to get mixed up with the current days pkts. Imagine you get another couple of pkts on Tuesday for the same address you had a couple of pkts for on Monday! This is seriously messed up :arrrghhh
You’ll leave them at your frame after you “book them in”yourself via the indoor tile on your PDA
Adding yet more time onto already unachievable workloads, both at the start and end of deliveries. 10 minutes at the end of the delivery to empty van, etc, add at least 15 minutes to go through 2 or 3 bags of undelivered packets, attaching stickers to those that were first attempted deliveries.

It’s almost like these stupid ideas are being thought up by people who have no idea about the intricacies of the actual job, and are designed to just annoy us.
kazardaimenu
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Re: Automatic re-delivery from 2 May

Post by kazardaimenu »

So you go out day one with parcel no answer, take it back out the next day but cut off so parcel returns to office, try again day 3 no answer so you book it in to the callers office anyway where customer would have picked it up from on day 2 :funneh :Applause
twoloops
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Re: Automatic re-delivery from 2 May

Post by twoloops »

Trial 😂 they’ve been doing it in every office up & down the country for the past year, have you not noticed all the “Inaccessible” parcels on a Monday morning from the fudged 100% delivered, not scanned & no 739 left If not in, bring them back Sunday parcel delivery gang, jobs f****d 🤡
ihatedogs
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Re: Automatic re-delivery from 2 May

Post by ihatedogs »

BigSacks wrote:
17 Apr 2023, 22:34
:shhhhh
rambo1 wrote:
17 Apr 2023, 22:17
clashcityrocker wrote:
17 Apr 2023, 19:09
ted_e_bear wrote:
17 Apr 2023, 18:56
I'm still struggling to see how this is a good idea, currently if we leave a card the recipient can choose to have the item redelivered when it's convenient for them rather than us automatically bringing it back the next day when it's unlikely they'll be in, so what's the advantage?
Apparently the trial office managed to redeliver 70% of the parcels which otherwise would have been 739d, thus saving on the booking in time, redelivery palaver and Customer Service Point time.
You say booking in time but what will actually be done with the pkts you bring back? Surely they will still need to be booked on at callers office to be put out again for auto redelivery? Or do we just leave them by the frame to get mixed up with the current days pkts. Imagine you get another couple of pkts on Tuesday for the same address you had a couple of pkts for on Monday! This is seriously messed up :arrrghhh
You’ll leave them at your frame after you “book them in”yourself via the indoor tile on your PDA
So cutting off even earlier than we do currently because an extra ten minutes is needed back at the D.O.?
R5001
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Re: Automatic re-delivery from 2 May

Post by R5001 »

ihatedogs wrote:
18 Apr 2023, 05:09
BigSacks wrote:
17 Apr 2023, 22:34


You’ll leave them at your frame after you “book them in”yourself via the indoor tile on your PDA
So cutting off even earlier than we do currently because an extra ten minutes is needed back at the D.O.?
Nah, thats the best part.

"The time required has been built into the current revision". :crazy:

They're mad.
ted_e_bear
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Re: Automatic re-delivery from 2 May

Post by ted_e_bear »

R5001 wrote:
18 Apr 2023, 05:48
ihatedogs wrote:
18 Apr 2023, 05:09
BigSacks wrote:
17 Apr 2023, 22:34


You’ll leave them at your frame after you “book them in”yourself via the indoor tile on your PDA
So cutting off even earlier than we do currently because an extra ten minutes is needed back at the D.O.?
Nah, thats the best part.

"The time required has been built into the current revision". :crazy:

They're mad.
Ah the classic time is built in to the duty line, yeah just like when we were told to deliver to neighbours,empty post boxes,jet wash the van, do the van check every day, one of my favourites is the duties that take 10-15 minutes each way to get to as opposed to them that start outside the office but yep you've guessed it the travelling time is built in to the duty
thefox
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Re: Automatic re-delivery from 2 May

Post by thefox »

Jet wash the van dont think ever seen anyone in ours doing this our vans are stinking outside and inside
denhamhoop
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Re: Automatic re-delivery from 2 May

Post by denhamhoop »

Mr Rush wrote:
17 Apr 2023, 21:10
Is there anything else our alleged competitors do that we don't currently do? We've mimicked pickups, taking photos, now automatic redelivery. Doorstepping?

I'd quite happily try neighbours to get rid of stuff if it weren't for the fact that any slack on delivery is immediately crammed with even more lapsing.
Paying 90 pence per drop off hmm sense the pay would rise at that rate so that will be a no then for that one