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The weekend is over

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clashcityrocker
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Re: The weekend is over

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DirtyHarry wrote:
15 Apr 2023, 05:43

Anybody know what was so pivotal about it?
The talks have been intense. serious, crucial, sensitive and now pivotal.

The rumour is the failure to update the members has been caused by the delay in the post of a Thesaurus that Webb ordered online in order to find a new word to describe the state of the talks.
If only they had sent it Tracked 24.
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Re: The weekend is over

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clashcityrocker wrote:
15 Apr 2023, 07:58
DirtyHarry wrote:
15 Apr 2023, 05:43

Anybody know what was so pivotal about it?
The talks have been intense. serious, crucial, sensitive and now pivotal.

The rumour is the failure to update the members has been caused by the delay in the post of a Thesaurus that Webb ordered online in order to find a new word to describe the state of the talks.
If only they had sent it Tracked 24.
Well, I hope this helps:
Breathtaking
Intense
Significant
Crucial
Unprecedented
Intense
Trailblazing
Serious
At the end of the day you are just postmen [sic].You deserve nothing more than what's been offered and probably a lot less.
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Re: The weekend is over

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The talks by Monday/Tuesday I predict will be known as: SHAFTED
On the face of it, shareholder value is the dumbest idea in the world.
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Re: The weekend is over

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clashcityrocker wrote:
15 Apr 2023, 07:58
DirtyHarry wrote:
15 Apr 2023, 05:43

Anybody know what was so pivotal about it?
The talks have been intense. serious, crucial, sensitive and now pivotal.

The rumour is the failure to update the members has been caused by the delay in the post of a Thesaurus that Webb ordered online in order to find a new word to describe the state of the talks.
If only they had sent it Tracked 24.
:Very Happy
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Re: The weekend is over

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aiden01 wrote:
15 Apr 2023, 06:08
DirtyHarry wrote:
15 Apr 2023, 05:43
clashcityrocker wrote:
13 Apr 2023, 11:40
Today is the pivotal day in negotiations with Royal Mail Group.
A number of issues remain outstanding and we are seeking to resolve them.
It is important that CWU members do exactly what you have done for the last year - ignore the noise and positioning from management and continue to stand ready to back your union.
If we can reach an agreement, it will then be considered by our Postal Executive and ultimately be subject to a full membership ballot. We don’t need lessons on democracy from an employer that has relentlessly and deliberately chosen imposition over agreement.
We will update you fully within the next 24 hours. We came into this dispute together. We will come out of it together.
Anybody know what was so pivotal about it?
No just another pack of lies.
:thumbup
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Re: The weekend is over

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stevejm wrote:
11 Apr 2023, 17:00
Kenfandango wrote:
11 Apr 2023, 16:33
As far as I can see the changes are costing them more in casual staff to cover the unmanageable workload... But I suppose they can only call them in once or twice a week, and don't need to pay them sick pay
nor pensions

but on the other hand, instead of paying sick-pay and pensions they pay the inflated agency fee - I heard they pay the agency £20/hour - pertemps
To employ a full time postie costs RM roughly £24.75 per hour. This is on hourly rate, employers national insurance, pension payments (which are generous), shift payments/allowances, industrial accident insurance ect ect. Agency staff are cheaper by quite a bit. That's why all new anguard staff pay has dropped, just like the new starts in RM. In fact the new posture rate is on £1.17 per hour more than the minimum wage. Good luck with getting people out their beds for that to walk miles per day in the pissing, freezing cold weather. I proccess bigger payments to people on the sick. :thumbdown
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Re: The weekend is over

Post by Nickvilla20 »

Navalron wrote:
16 Apr 2023, 21:40
stevejm wrote:
11 Apr 2023, 17:00
Kenfandango wrote:
11 Apr 2023, 16:33
As far as I can see the changes are costing them more in casual staff to cover the unmanageable workload... But I suppose they can only call them in once or twice a week, and don't need to pay them sick pay
nor pensions

but on the other hand, instead of paying sick-pay and pensions they pay the inflated agency fee - I heard they pay the agency £20/hour - pertemps
To employ a full time postie costs RM roughly £24.75 per hour. This is on hourly rate, employers national insurance, pension payments (which are generous), shift payments/allowances, industrial accident insurance ect ect. Agency staff are cheaper by quite a bit. That's why all new anguard staff pay has dropped, just like the new starts in RM. In fact the new posture rate is on £1.17 per hour more than the minimum wage. Good luck with getting people out their beds for that to walk miles per day in the pissing, freezing cold weather. I proccess bigger payments to people on the sick. :thumbdown
New starters at Royal Mail are on less than supermarket delivery drivers and that’s far easier than doing a 10 mile delivery. The only plus is the hours but that will soon change in the near future.
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Re: The weekend is over

Post by aiden01 »

Navalron wrote:
16 Apr 2023, 21:40
stevejm wrote:
11 Apr 2023, 17:00
Kenfandango wrote:
11 Apr 2023, 16:33
As far as I can see the changes are costing them more in casual staff to cover the unmanageable workload... But I suppose they can only call them in once or twice a week, and don't need to pay them sick pay
nor pensions

but on the other hand, instead of paying sick-pay and pensions they pay the inflated agency fee - I heard they pay the agency £20/hour - pertemps
To employ a full time postie costs RM roughly £24.75 per hour. This is on hourly rate, employers national insurance, pension payments (which are generous), shift payments/allowances, industrial accident insurance ect ect. Agency staff are cheaper by quite a bit. That's why all new anguard staff pay has dropped, just like the new starts in RM. In fact the new posture rate is on £1.17 per hour more than the minimum wage. Good luck with getting people out their beds for that to walk miles per day in the pissing, freezing cold weather. I proccess bigger payments to people on the sick. :thumbdown
Whats the posture rate if i can ask lol.
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Re: The weekend is over

Post by stevejm »

aiden01 wrote:
17 Apr 2023, 00:04
Navalron wrote:
16 Apr 2023, 21:40
stevejm wrote:
11 Apr 2023, 17:00
Kenfandango wrote:
11 Apr 2023, 16:33
As far as I can see the changes are costing them more in casual staff to cover the unmanageable workload... But I suppose they can only call them in once or twice a week, and don't need to pay them sick pay
nor pensions

but on the other hand, instead of paying sick-pay and pensions they pay the inflated agency fee - I heard they pay the agency £20/hour - pertemps
To employ a full time postie costs RM roughly £24.75 per hour. This is on hourly rate, employers national insurance, pension payments (which are generous), shift payments/allowances, industrial accident insurance ect ect. Agency staff are cheaper by quite a bit. That's why all new anguard staff pay has dropped, just like the new starts in RM. In fact the new posture rate is on £1.17 per hour more than the minimum wage. Good luck with getting people out their beds for that to walk miles per day in the pissing, freezing cold weather. I proccess bigger payments to people on the sick. :thumbdown
Whats the posture rate if i can ask lol.
That's something that S.T has thought of. The better your posture the faster you can walk so the higher the hourly rate.