Royal Mail strike plan: bosses will deliver post.

robmacca · Post by **robmacca** » 04 Jun 2007, 22:17

I think Leighton and Crozier will try whatever methods they can to get the mail out, these guys were not around during the last national strike and, as clearly seen, have no reguard for what happened in the past.
They would sooner the Union wasn't around so they could impose their will on everyone.

While I think it is unlikly all the mail will get delivered during a national strike- we should be aware they will try new ways to undermine the strike, if it happens.

robd · Post by **robd** » 04 Jun 2007, 22:28

What's interesting in our office is our manager was relying on our part-time work force(largely 25 hour contracts)to help out and cover overtime,due
to high level of long term sick,however it's simply not happening.
He can't comprehend how they can manage financially and doesn't understand why they won't take out an extra bag of mail.
Consequently,as it stands the office is struggling and the managers even have to come in on their days off to deliver mail.
Yes,it's easy enough to take out a bag full of letters,but it's getting to that stage,
who's going to transport the mail,segregate the firms from the residential,prep the walks etc...
Postmans right,they might be taking a bag out,but there won't be much in it!

simonr2020 · Post by **simonr2020** » 04 Jun 2007, 22:33

If a strike goes ahead will the lorry drivers etc go on strike too??

If they did how would the mail get to the DO's to be delivered by managers??

F0zziebear · Post by **F0zziebear** » 04 Jun 2007, 22:40

I am not claiming that all or even the majority of mail will be delivered. That is nonsense.

the crippling effect is dependent on the supply lines being cut off. By that I mean the mail centres. If they all go out then I would see a crippling effect. But that requires all out strike for at least a week.

One off strikes will not in my opinion cripple the system.

Lets leave it at that and see what happens

Good luck

F0zz

slaughteredlamb · Post by **slaughteredlamb** » 04 Jun 2007, 23:09

My worry is, that a gun will be held to the head of each and every one of my CMA members. Ok you probably think we're all management scum, but we're not all like that, honest

we're not all managers either!!! Will we be forced, bullied, harassed into crossing picket lines? Divide and rule tactics of previous strikes?

IWW Fellow Worker · Post by **IWW Fellow Worker** » 04 Jun 2007, 23:15

slaughteredlamb wrote:My worry is, that a gun will be held to the head of each and every one of my CMA members. Ok you probably think we're all management scum, but we're not all like that, honest we're not all managers either!!! Will we be forced, bullied, harassed into crossing picket lines? Divide and rule tactics of previous strikes?

In my experience (27 years) I've never seen a manager yet who didn't have a grin like a Cheshire cat at the idea of doing a spot of strike breaking. It's a big adventure for them. Of course if the CMA had the bottle and some notion of solidarity, they would support the action of the CWU, but they won't.

L Tommo · Post by **L Tommo** » 04 Jun 2007, 23:24

If a screw stood on a picket line as a show of his/her morals then i would applaud them no end and would forever remember there actions...

There job would be fecked but could you imagine the look on the DOM or MCM when the manager walked out and made a stand???

stranger things have happend but im not holding my breath!!!

Right im off to put my life savings on a 100-1 shot at punchestown!!!! 3:30..

LITTLEADAMSHITFORBRAINSLOTSOFDOSH.. Is the name.,. The jockey is a new bloke,, a A. Leighton.... Dont know him??? Do u???

OUT

WHIP CRACK AWAY WHIP CRACK AWAY!!! WHIP CRACK AWAY!!!!!!!

Post by **POSTMAN** » 04 Jun 2007, 23:25

Where's the Burslem boys!!
At my office: There was that strike about 3 years ago just before xmas,it was for a few days,it completly f****d my office up big time.
Took them weeks to clear,and that was with Docket,early starters,and cars.
Give me 2 days of not coming in at my place here and there,it will take weeks to clear,i promise.
We're struggling now as we're on the vans.

Dyson · Post by **Dyson** » 05 Jun 2007, 10:14

Hi guys,

With reference to what people are saying regarding agency workers during strike periods, how does that figure if RM have already arranged for agency workers to work set shifts????

I say this because at Mdec Plymouth I am aware that this is already happening atm!!!

Dyson.

johno47 · Post by **johno47** » 05 Jun 2007, 15:11

Postman the strike you had 3 years ago, was that in 2003 because Burslem were the only office in staffordshire that walked out unofficially in support of fellow workers in London, i think we were out for a couple of days as well...
UNITY IS STRENGTH.

Post by **POSTMAN** » 05 Jun 2007, 16:25

johno47 wrote:Postman the strike you had 3 years ago, was that in 2003 because Burslem were the only office in staffordshire that walked out unofficially in support of fellow workers in London, i think we were out for a couple of days as well...
UNITY IS STRENGTH.

That might be it,top guys you Burslem

F0zziebear · Post by **F0zziebear** » 05 Jun 2007, 16:28

Can anyone remember what that strike was about?

side_door · Post by **side_door** » 05 Jun 2007, 16:31

This phrase is used above and elsewhere (in other threads) there is a suggestion that strike action will bring the country to its knees and all that sort of stuff. A strike does not need to do this.

Plenty of others workers in other industries have gone on strike and the country has functioned oblivious to whether a small engineering firm or printers had a walk out. However, the workers in those industries have succeeded in their goal. Why is that?

Because a strike is about costing the company money. If it costs enough then management have no choice but stop treating their workers as an enemy and come to a reasonable accommodation. Businesses do this because, for them, its all about the balance sheet at the end of the day. Royal Mail like any other company has contracts and obligations and, I have no doubt, built into those penalties which are imposed if they do not perform. We are all aware that Postcomm can levy fines. Even were these things not to happen. When the strike (if such there is) is over, it will be us, the postmen, who clear the backlog and if we ensure that our dockets reflect the anger which provoked the strike in the first place, Royal Mail would be in no mood for another any time soon.

Post by **POSTMAN** » 05 Jun 2007, 16:33

F0zziebear wrote:Can anyone remember what that strike was about?

I was off long term sick at the time but na aint got a clue,was a london thing i think.
Johnnypick might know,i've pointed him to this,as it's bugging me now.

johnnyp · Post by **johnnyp** » 05 Jun 2007, 18:42

Im not %100 but i think that to was to do with Teamworking and a few other anti union policys leighton wanted to bring in.The thinking was if they could break London the rest of the country would follow suit,we went out first (unofficially)then it started to spread,home counties first then if i remember Bristol,Coventry Birmingham and one or two other big towns,by the 5th or 6th day it was looking like the whole country would be out then leighton woke up and realized he could not do as he pleased and meet the union(dave wards first big punch up)and was put back in his place.
Can i take this opportunity to thank all those colleagues who came out in support

,it shows if we all stick together we can win any dispute

ROYALMAILCHAT

Royal Mail strike plan: bosses will deliver post.

re: Not claiming that all or even the majority of mail will

A gun at our heads

Re: A gun at our heads

Lets see ???

Agency workers at mdec already?

re: What was that strike about?

Crippling effect

Re: re: What was that strike about?