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CWU video - RM bosses in Parliament again Weds 22/2

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Re: CWU video - RM bosses in Parliament again Weds 22/2

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On the face of it, shareholder value is the dumbest idea in the world.
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Genuine question- what happens now ?

Select Committee 3 - if subsequence evidence has misled parliament again ?
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SSkUNkY wrote:
22 Feb 2023, 17:47
The three stooges need to go to prison for their blatant half truths and lies.

The way they acted was as though it was all a bit of a joke to them; the only person to actually give them real trouble was the chair.
Exactly this.

They knew the Committe had sussed their lies, but they just didn't care. In fact, they enjoyed it. Lie some more, smirk smirk.

Proper nasty pieces of work
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sindba wrote:
22 Feb 2023, 18:47
SSkUNkY wrote:
22 Feb 2023, 17:47
The three stooges need to go to prison for their blatant half truths and lies.

The way they acted was as though it was all a bit of a joke to them; the only person to actually give them real trouble was the chair.
Exactly this.

They knew the Committe had sussed their lies, but they just didn't care. In fact, they enjoyed it. Lie some more, smirk smirk.

Proper nasty pieces of work
or idiots for thinking they were above the law? Even on the PDA data ST couldn't get his facts right, one minute saying it wasn't used to discipline posties, then the next minute saying 16 members of staff had been conducted, I doubt many posties are conducted/dismissed but it's big threat to hit us with to make us all work faster.

I'm pretty certain the mangers can see the data live and don't have to wait until the following day, ST hinted of that when he said something about them having a "duty of care" for outdoor staff but wasn't then questioned about what that meant.
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Re: CWU video - RM bosses in Parliament again Weds 22/2

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DiamondSmiles wrote:
22 Feb 2023, 16:11
Highly embarrassing and unusual that our leaders had to take the oath before the select committee.
Exactly, but after last time, who could blame them? Everyone in any position of power thinks they can lie through their teeth, and yes, it all comes from the top, our "government".
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mark.cup wrote:
22 Feb 2023, 17:12
3 lying scumbags you wouldn't even trust to walk your nan across the street!

Keith Williams reminds me of the t*sser that used to run Pimlico plumbing for some reason....?

What became very apparent is the long term goal is to bin letters completely and they are doing their utmost to shrink that side of the business rather than promote it.

The end result of that will be more than half the number of staff needed and huge profits and dividends for the shareholders
Exactly this :Applause :Applause
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TopperGas wrote:
22 Feb 2023, 19:05
I'm pretty certain the mangers can see the data live and don't have to wait until the following day, ST hinted of that when he said something about them having a "duty of care" for outdoor staff but wasn't then questioned about what that meant.
That 'duty of care' excuse was one of the biggest, glaringly obvious lies. I don't really understand why you need to check if someone's ok when they have stopped still for a bit. It was a completely made up excuse.

It's 100% used against people to give them more work to do.
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short and sweet "scumbags"
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TopperGas wrote:
22 Feb 2023, 19:05
I'm pretty certain the mangers can see the data live and don't have to wait until the following day, ST hinted of that when he said something about them having a "duty of care" for outdoor staff but wasn't then questioned about what that meant.
That's a really good point and a total contradiction exposed. Either managers can see the data in real time so that they can use it to rush to our aid should we be immobilised or they can't see it until the next day and it's purpose is indeed something else entirely. One or the other is BS.
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Re: CWU video - RM bosses in Parliament again Weds 22/2

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nuisance wrote:
22 Feb 2023, 19:51
TopperGas wrote:
22 Feb 2023, 19:05
I'm pretty certain the mangers can see the data live and don't have to wait until the following day, ST hinted of that when he said something about them having a "duty of care" for outdoor staff but wasn't then questioned about what that meant.
That's a really good point and a total contradiction exposed. Either managers can see the data in real time so that they can use it to rush to our aid should we be immobilised or they can't see it until the next day and it's purpose is indeed something else entirely. One or the other is BS.
Of course its utter BS if all my coms are home by 11 am on a Saturday how are they checking on my H&S?
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TopperGas wrote:
22 Feb 2023, 19:05
sindba wrote:
22 Feb 2023, 18:47
SSkUNkY wrote:
22 Feb 2023, 17:47
The three stooges need to go to prison for their blatant half truths and lies.

The way they acted was as though it was all a bit of a joke to them; the only person to actually give them real trouble was the chair.
Exactly this.

They knew the Committe had sussed their lies, but they just didn't care. In fact, they enjoyed it. Lie some more, smirk smirk.

Proper nasty pieces of work
or idiots for thinking they were above the law? Even on the PDA data ST couldn't get his facts right, one minute saying it wasn't used to discipline posties, then the next minute saying 16 members of staff had been conducted, I doubt many posties are conducted/dismissed but it's big threat to hit us with to make us all work faster.

I'm pretty certain the mangers can see the data live and don't have to wait until the following day, ST hinted of that when he said something about them having a "duty of care" for outdoor staff but wasn't then questioned about what that meant.
There was no duty of care when they left me for 3 hours in the cold on a rural broken down and all the bosses had gone home.
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theotherone wrote:
22 Feb 2023, 19:53
nuisance wrote:
22 Feb 2023, 19:51
TopperGas wrote:
22 Feb 2023, 19:05
I'm pretty certain the mangers can see the data live and don't have to wait until the following day, ST hinted of that when he said something about them having a "duty of care" for outdoor staff but wasn't then questioned about what that meant.
That's a really good point and a total contradiction exposed. Either managers can see the data in real time so that they can use it to rush to our aid should we be immobilised or they can't see it until the next day and it's purpose is indeed something else entirely. One or the other is BS.
Of course its utter BS if all my coms are home by 11 am on a Saturday how are they checking on my H&S?
Same in our office they all go home early and dont give a s**t what happens to us on delivery
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Re: CWU video - RM bosses in Parliament again Weds 22/2

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Slipperier than a nest of vipers.
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chrisj wrote:
22 Feb 2023, 16:10
Blah blah blah...

These Labour politicians are so biased and so stuck up the Union's backside. They wouldn't be able to run a cottage industry with their approach...

Operational reality from a very large company dictates that there will be rogue incidents and managers.

Why they are not pushing back the nonsense about the USO, I do not understand. The supporting casts did Simon a big favour - it stops him being bullied and allows others to have an input. Yes, he was still being economical with the truth: premium products have to be prioritised and who wants to be bringing large parcels back to be delivered the next day.

Sickness absence is an issue not just pandemic and/or strikes - Keith Williams was the first to highlight that issue and Simon later came with his anecdote.

*PDA question was a waste of time.
** Sickness absence not being paid was the only real breakthrough but overegged as usual by Lavery...
*** Why should Union Reps get a free pass on disciplinary issues and procedure?
You're a disgrace.
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Re: CWU video - RM bosses in Parliament again Weds 22/2

Post by Nickvilla20 »

Drezlar wrote:
22 Feb 2023, 20:05
chrisj wrote:
22 Feb 2023, 16:10
Blah blah blah...

These Labour politicians are so biased and so stuck up the Union's backside. They wouldn't be able to run a cottage industry with their approach...

Operational reality from a very large company dictates that there will be rogue incidents and managers.

Why they are not pushing back the nonsense about the USO, I do not understand. The supporting casts did Simon a big favour - it stops him being bullied and allows others to have an input. Yes, he was still being economical with the truth: premium products have to be prioritised and who wants to be bringing large parcels back to be delivered the next day.

Sickness absence is an issue not just pandemic and/or strikes - Keith Williams was the first to highlight that issue and Simon later came with his anecdote.

*PDA question was a waste of time.
** Sickness absence not being paid was the only real breakthrough but overegged as usual by Lavery...
*** Why should Union Reps get a free pass on disciplinary issues and procedure?
You're a disgrace.
Seems he’s happy with low morale, bullying and impossible workloads in what is already a physically demand job.

Not sure why he bought party politics into it as it’s certain we will have a Labour government within the next 18 months.