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Holidays-Strike days.

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lillywhite
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Holidays-Strike days.

Post by lillywhite »

We have this week got round to the last weeks holidays pick,each persons holiday sheet has had 2 more sheets attached with the workings on how many days/hrs you have lost due to the strikes. We knew this was coming but we have been told that if you have 2 weeks to pick but have lost 1 day you may only pick 1 weeks holiday. This affects almost all the office. We are going to have 30 odd people all trying to get in 4 days or so of holidays! We can’t get the odd lieu day now so how the hell can they accommodate this? How are other offices handling this?
ted_e_bear
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Re: Holidays-Strike days.

Post by ted_e_bear »

The deductions for strikes have been automatically taken firstly from any outstanding leave in this current leave year it's only taken from next years if you haven't anything to carry over.
pieoftheday
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Re: Holidays-Strike days.

Post by pieoftheday »

ted_e_bear wrote:
18 Feb 2023, 11:32
The deductions for strikes have been automatically taken firstly from any outstanding leave in this current leave year it's only taken from next years if you haven't anything to carry over.
Leave is issued over a financial year , there must be a reason for this? so how can they reduce our leave from the next financial year for something that happened in this one?
TopperGas
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Re: Holidays-Strike days.

Post by TopperGas »

I can't work out from the OP whether he's referring to the last of this year's hols or next year's as surely if it's the latter they can all be fitted in over 12 months and, as you say, deductions have already been made from this year's hols for most people.
lillywhite
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Re: Holidays-Strike days.

Post by lillywhite »

Sorry, meant to say we are picking for next years holidays. The new pick sheets are out for your last picks.
ted_e_bear
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Re: Holidays-Strike days.

Post by ted_e_bear »

pieoftheday wrote:
18 Feb 2023, 11:42
ted_e_bear wrote:
18 Feb 2023, 11:32
The deductions for strikes have been automatically taken firstly from any outstanding leave in this current leave year it's only taken from next years if you haven't anything to carry over.
Leave is issued over a financial year , there must be a reason for this? so how can they reduce our leave from the next financial year for something that happened in this one?
I've been searching for info (I'm sure I read it on here but I can't find it) but found it in the faq section on the people app It's all explained why/how they've done it, 1st item on the list of faq's.

Link below takes you to the web version where you can log in if you haven't got the app.

https://flpnwc-tiqlowleu9.dispatcher.eu ... aq-Display
pieoftheday
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Re: Holidays-Strike days.

Post by pieoftheday »

ted_e_bear wrote:
18 Feb 2023, 14:56
pieoftheday wrote:
18 Feb 2023, 11:42
ted_e_bear wrote:
18 Feb 2023, 11:32
The deductions for strikes have been automatically taken firstly from any outstanding leave in this current leave year it's only taken from next years if you haven't anything to carry over.
Leave is issued over a financial year , there must be a reason for this? so how can they reduce our leave from the next financial year for something that happened in this one?
I've been searching for info (I'm sure I read it on here but I can't find it) but found it in the faq section on the people app It's all explained why/how they've done it, 1st item on the list of faq's.

Link below takes you to the web version where you can log in if you haven't got the app.

https://flpnwc-tiqlowleu9.dispatcher.eu ... aq-Display
I've had a look ta, I still cant see how reducing our leave for the next year because of strikes that occurred this financial year is right :hmmmm I recall some years ago saturdays were occasionally our easy day and we might get back a bit early, one manager would try to claim that time back the following week, he never got his way obviously because it was a new working week, it seems to me this taking next years leave is a similar thing?
funkflex55
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Re: Holidays-Strike days.

Post by funkflex55 »

You guys get to pick holidays?!
In my office 4 weeks of the holidays are assigned and then you have to go around asking to swap them if they're not suitable. It's a s**t way of working, I've currently got zero weeks off where my child is off school.
Woody Guthrie
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Re: Holidays-Strike days.

Post by Woody Guthrie »

I've had a look ta, I still cant see how reducing our leave for the next year because of strikes that occurred this financial year is right
It's only taken from next year if you had none left in this year to take it from.
The only other option would have been a straight deduction from wages.
Is it legally sound?
Probably just about.
Is it morally disgusting.
Definitely.
Are we surprised?
Unfortunately not.
Only dead fish follow the current
lillywhite
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Re: Holidays-Strike days.

Post by lillywhite »

My real point was not being able to put 2 weeks in as you may have lost a day,surely they should allow you to pick the 2 then work it from there ie use a lieu day or work a day off.
luddite
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Re: Holidays-Strike days.

Post by luddite »

funkflex55 wrote:
18 Feb 2023, 16:57
You guys get to pick holidays?!
In my office 4 weeks of the holidays are assigned and then you have to go around asking to swap them if they're not suitable. It's a s**t way of working, I've currently got zero weeks off where my child is off school.
Same at our place, we filled in holiday sheets and a manager chose them for us!!
Some of us got none out of 6 choices, not one. Told to swop around ourselves. If my FIRST choice was first week in September
I don't want the third in October! BLOODY SHAMBLES.
Thommo44
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Re: Holidays-Strike days.

Post by Thommo44 »

How many days a year do you have to attend or be on the sick to get the full entitlement? How many days did you work, probably in excess of the requirement, as overtime is paid at the same rate surely if you have worked enough days they can’t take any off you?

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I've had a look ta, I still cant see how reducing our leave for the next year because of strikes that occurred this financial year is right
It's only taken from next year if you had none left in this year to take it from.
The only other option would have been a straight deduction from wages.
Is it legally sound?
Probably just about.
Is it morally disgusting.
Definitely.
Are we surprised?
Unfortunately not.
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