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rambo1
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Re: New Strike date

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Barnacle wrote:
03 Feb 2023, 19:11
Clappedoutpostie wrote:
03 Feb 2023, 18:59
Barnacle wrote:
03 Feb 2023, 18:26
Referring to RM deciding to use agency workers on a Sunday from this coming Sunday: does anyone know if that decision was made AFTER the strike day had been announced?
They are back to trying to starve us back.
That’s what it seems like because they even told people who’d been doing Sundays for a couple of years to not bother because they are now using agency. Pretty disgraceful.
Maybe if the people wanted the Sundays they should have taken a pkt duty with Sundays built in , instead of cherry picking the easy money sundays as and when they wanted with no commitment.
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Re: New Strike date

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rambo1 wrote:
04 Feb 2023, 09:18
Barnacle wrote:
03 Feb 2023, 19:11
Clappedoutpostie wrote:
03 Feb 2023, 18:59
Barnacle wrote:
03 Feb 2023, 18:26
Referring to RM deciding to use agency workers on a Sunday from this coming Sunday: does anyone know if that decision was made AFTER the strike day had been announced?
They are back to trying to starve us back.
That’s what it seems like because they even told people who’d been doing Sundays for a couple of years to not bother because they are now using agency. Pretty disgraceful.
Maybe if the people wanted the Sundays they should have taken a pkt duty with Sundays built in , instead of cherry picking the easy money sundays as and when they wanted with no commitment.
There weren’t any packet duties with a Sunday. Plus, not everyone who was doing a Sunday is a postie.
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
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Re: New Strike date

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Barnacle wrote:
04 Feb 2023, 15:28
rambo1 wrote:
04 Feb 2023, 09:18
Barnacle wrote:
03 Feb 2023, 19:11
Clappedoutpostie wrote:
03 Feb 2023, 18:59
Barnacle wrote:
03 Feb 2023, 18:26
Referring to RM deciding to use agency workers on a Sunday from this coming Sunday: does anyone know if that decision was made AFTER the strike day had been announced?
They are back to trying to starve us back.
That’s what it seems like because they even told people who’d been doing Sundays for a couple of years to not bother because they are now using agency. Pretty disgraceful.
Maybe if the people wanted the Sundays they should have taken a pkt duty with Sundays built in , instead of cherry picking the easy money sundays as and when they wanted with no commitment.
There weren’t any packet duties with a Sunday. Plus, not everyone who was doing a Sunday is a postie.
Fair enough. Our lat duties were inclusive of Sunday. As you said though, half of them came from being agency.
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Re: New Strike date

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chrisj wrote:
03 Feb 2023, 09:53
aiden01 wrote:
03 Feb 2023, 08:40
SpacePhoenix wrote:
03 Feb 2023, 06:43
All the OT application sheets have vanished from the notice boards, which makes me wonder if RM are about to or already have, going to bring in another national OT ban
You have already said how quiet it is so why give out ot??
Second the above!

Furthermore, one was complaining about Royal Mail using Agency staff for Sundays; why would RM want to rely on Posties that are now unreliable, just to help the same Posties boost the wages through overtime...

There was so much moaning about working on Sundays - now the volunteers are moaning about not getting Sundays

We are just hurting ourselves with these strikes - more lost wages and damage to the company - hope the Union will be happy and proud of themselves when it all gets to pot; finally!

These strikes are a publicity stunt - for the Select Committee hearing and upcoming new ballots. They want to damage Simon Thompson and RM but it will backfire!

People should be careful about taking photos of their workplace and the whole whistle blowing thing... There are rules and does and don'ts. More reps to be suspended too - because there will be more strike breakers and rancour within the ranks.

Good luck folks!
At the end of the day its either go on strike or work for Evri,if you dont want to work in an Evri environment,its simple strike or go find another job its come down to this sadly.
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Re: New Strike date

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Am not the only one in the office wondering what the strike, apart from everyone losing a day's pay and RM saving millions in wages, is going to achieve, especially when mail volumes are so low
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Re: New Strike date

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Maybe it's just a reminder to let the management know we are still here and the problem hasn't gone away.
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Re: New Strike date

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chrisj wrote:
03 Feb 2023, 09:53
more lost wages and damage to the company - hope the Union will be happy and proud of themselves when it all gets to pot; finally!
The board and ST and KW are doing damage to the company. Privatisation damaged the company.

The strikes and the actions of the CWU are to prevent/limit further damage to the company.

RM is here to provide the USO. Don't forget that.

Privatisation has messed that up because all they care about at the top is money.

Remind me what the S in USO stands for. Does it stand for profit?

RM without the USO is just another parcel courier.

Is that who you want to work for?

If you can't see that then you deserve what you get.
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Re: New Strike date

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Our revision go live next week out of 20 walks they have took 3 walks out and made 3 walks part time so a strike day that week will be chaos they have displaced 5 senior posties who now have no walks all 25 years plus in the job all made to be reserves with there rotates took away its a complete disgrace management looking after the new starts by putting them on the part time walks and giving them the rotates that use to belong to the senior men you couldn't make this up
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Re: New Strike date

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Strike cancelled.
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Re: New Strike date

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BigSacks wrote:
06 Feb 2023, 18:41
Strike cancelled.
Is it?
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
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Re: New Strike date

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Barnacle wrote:
06 Feb 2023, 18:42
BigSacks wrote:
06 Feb 2023, 18:41
Strike cancelled.
Is it?
Appears so.
Company threatening legal action and the union not wanting to take the risk of affecting the ballot.
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Re: New Strike date

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BigSacks wrote:
06 Feb 2023, 18:43
Barnacle wrote:
06 Feb 2023, 18:42
BigSacks wrote:
06 Feb 2023, 18:41
Strike cancelled.
Is it?
Appears so.
Company threatening legal action and the union not wanting to take the risk of affecting the ballot.
Legal action on what basis?
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
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Re: New Strike date

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A Message to all CWU Members

Dear Members,

There is no doubt this has been the most bitter and complex dispute in our history. 3 ballots, 18 days of strike action and we have stood up against the most brutal attack on workers in the UK for many decades.

The ongoing ballot is the most important vote of your working lives. If we are able to deliver a massive yes vote and turnout, then we will go on to win this dispute – this has to be our absolute focus.

Over the weekend we received correspondence from Royal Mail Group’s legal representatives challenging the strike action we have called across the 16th/17th February. Having discussed this with our lawyers they have advised that we could defend our position in court.

However, they have also advised that given the laws in this country are heavily weighted against working people, the risks of losing in court may potentially impact on the re-ballot – we simply cannot allow this happen.

On this basis the Postal Executive do not believe it is worth risking the status of the new ballot to defend a ballot mandate that expires on 17th February. Instead, we have agreed the following steps:

• We will not be taking strike action on 16th / 17th February
• The focus of the whole union must remain on winning the ballot
• We will re-enter negotiations with Royal Mail Group this week
• If talks fail, we will significantly step up the programme of strike action
• The union will shortly announce details of a formal strike fund

This rush to the courts by Royal Mail Group is the latest in a long list of deliberate, sustained and coordinated attacks on you:

• Executive action in the workplace
• Suspension and dismissal of CWU representatives and members
• Relentless goading and intimidation online

You have risen above every single one of these actions and we know you will do the same now. We cannot allow Royal Mail Group’s blatant efforts to demoralise you and discredit the union, to distract us from the reality that the resolution to this long-running dispute will be determined and settled by the outcome of the current vote.

Voting for and taking strike action is never easy but we have to be crystal clear. If you do not vote in this ballot, then Royal Mail Group count you as on their side. This means they see you as endorsing a strategy which includes:

• The removal of the right to negotiate at local level – executive action is being taken across the UK. If we do not win this ballot, it will become standard practise
• Later starts in every function and business
• Open attacks, suspensions, and dismissals of CWU members and representatives
• Total flexibility – not knowing what you are doing on a daily basis
• Outsourcing – this has already started in Fleet and will not stop there
• Bringing back managers who received 2 years redundancy pay and handing them £40,000 for a 9-month contract
• A senior management team assembled from union busting backgrounds
• A company happy to openly mislead Parliament

You are better than this.

It is the duty of every single CWU member in the UK to vote yes and spend the next week encouraging every single colleague in the UK to do the same.

Win the ballot, win the dispute.

Solidarity,

Dave Ward
General Secretary

Andy Furey
Acting Deputy General Secretary (Postal)
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Re: New Strike date

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Barnacle wrote:
06 Feb 2023, 18:44
BigSacks wrote:
06 Feb 2023, 18:43
Barnacle wrote:
06 Feb 2023, 18:42
BigSacks wrote:
06 Feb 2023, 18:41
Strike cancelled.
Is it?
Appears so.
Company threatening legal action and the union not wanting to take the risk of affecting the ballot.
Legal action on what basis?
Didn’t state the full details.

There will be the usual wailing and gnashing of teeth against the Union no doubt but you can’t really blame them for not getting involved in a court battle with a company aided and abetted by a corrupt system and government intent on removing any right of the working man and woman.
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Re: New Strike date

Post by Sputters »

So what was the challenge by royal mail. .
Surely the union solicitors should of made sure it was able to go ahead .
Seems like they have messed up again . Rm must be laughing at the cwu .