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Barnacle
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Re: yes or no in ballot

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fallenworld2022 wrote:
05 Feb 2023, 10:29
Ive not voted yet, leaving it last min, was a bit dissapointed in cwu during last round of strikes, considering how much money us members have lost to these strikes how many saturdays did we strike? what did we have 18 to 20 days of strikes, i can only think of 1 or 2 saturdays max we striked, you would think if cwu valued and listened to their members they would put in more saturdays as strike days give the guys a weekend off to spend to go see a football match or whatever, was a lot of wednesday, thursday, fridays, go on union give us some saturdays off least u can do
What is the point of striking on a day that is traditionally lighter than the others? On a Saturday there are no collection duties so striking on a Thursday or Friday is more disruptive.
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Re: yes or no in ballot

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post6675 wrote:
05 Feb 2023, 12:32
Schiff wrote:
05 Feb 2023, 12:21
FilthyBloke wrote:
05 Feb 2023, 12:17
It would be a NO from me.
The changes are mostly ok from my point of view and I’m only here to get paid.
You are not a union member, so this is one thread where your view is completely and utterly irrelevant. You aren't prepared to pay to have your chance to have a say on the union's actions.
Works both ways though, if he has no say in union actions , union members should have no say in non union members working which a lot seem to do with their childish actions like refusing to speak to them

Hopefully we will get some sort of an agreement :pray

Yes, we don't have a say in anyone who wants to work during the strike but if you really think that staff are going to come back off the picket line and give you a high five for crossing it then you're living in dreamland.
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Re: yes or no in ballot

Post by Eduardo »

postslippete wrote:
05 Feb 2023, 18:26
Yes, we don't have a say in anyone who wants to work during the strike but if you really think that staff are going to come back off the picket line and give you a high five for crossing it then you're living in dreamland.

I am not aiming this comment at anyone, I am not being critical of any person individually but I would like to say that there are always people who will let others do the dirty work whilst standing back and watching them do it and thinking themselves clever for not doing it themselves whilst happily joining in and taking part in the positive results of the efforts of others and there will always be people who are willing to go without a little in the hope that they are working towards a greater good that all will benefit from.
It has always been this way, you just have to think which direction you feel most comfortable with before you decide your actions.
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Re: yes or no in ballot

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walthmstowman wrote:
05 Feb 2023, 18:06
thefox wrote:
05 Feb 2023, 11:13
fallenworld2022 wrote:
05 Feb 2023, 10:29
Ive not voted yet, leaving it last min, was a bit dissapointed in cwu during last round of strikes, considering how much money us members have lost to these strikes how many saturdays did we strike? what did we have 18 to 20 days of strikes, i can only think of 1 or 2 saturdays max we striked, you would think if cwu valued and listened to their members they would put in more saturdays as strike days give the guys a weekend off to spend to go see a football match or whatever, was a lot of wednesday, thursday, fridays, go on union give us some saturdays off least u can do
Thats the view of a lot of guys in my office including me.
If you vote No or we end up losing this dispute at least you know what's coming . Just don't blame the union .
Shoulda been more clear i was talking about saturday strike days i have already returned my yes vote.
koolishy67
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Re: yes or no in ballot

Post by koolishy67 »

Voted yes but no strike for me anymore
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Re: yes or no in ballot

Post by Ddarko85 »

Yes vote.

Whilst my opinion is that the CWU is far from perfect, this job without a union will be absolutely horrendous. I’ve worked in places prior without any union representation, and how this job is - god help us if the union is defeated.
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Re: yes or no in ballot

Post by ashmeister77 »

YES
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Re: yes or no in ballot

Post by chrisj »

Why vote Yes to embolden the Union to continue to be intransigent? I cannot even tell what the Union have conceded in all these months of talks and negotiations. Yet it will s RM that you s copping all the flack!

Some in my office have also voted Yes but says they will not strike next week - due to Union incompetence in announcing just a day's strike and it is still not clear to most what days the strike is or for how long.

Just a waste of a day's wage - why rush that particular strike date and then nothing for weeks after? The Union is playing with our wages using very dubious tactics that are more of a gesture or political or about being in the news.

Why this obsession with Simon - just get a deal with the the devil you know now because the one after will definitely not waver on the changes... And by that time, the situation might be so dire and unpredictable...
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Re: yes or no in ballot

Post by aiden01 »

walthmstowman wrote:
05 Feb 2023, 18:06
thefox wrote:
05 Feb 2023, 11:13
fallenworld2022 wrote:
05 Feb 2023, 10:29
Ive not voted yet, leaving it last min, was a bit dissapointed in cwu during last round of strikes, considering how much money us members have lost to these strikes how many saturdays did we strike? what did we have 18 to 20 days of strikes, i can only think of 1 or 2 saturdays max we striked, you would think if cwu valued and listened to their members they would put in more saturdays as strike days give the guys a weekend off to spend to go see a football match or whatever, was a lot of wednesday, thursday, fridays, go on union give us some saturdays off least u can do
Thats the view of a lot of guys in my office including me.
If you vote No or we end up losing this dispute at least you know what's coming . Just don't blame the union .
So if we do lose this dispute who do we blame .
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Re: yes or no in ballot

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chrisj wrote:
05 Feb 2023, 19:06
Yet it will s RM that you s copping all the flack!
What does this mean?
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Re: yes or no in ballot

Post by aiden01 »

koolishy67 wrote:
05 Feb 2023, 18:52
Voted yes but no strike for me anymore
Why vote yes? If youve given up
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Re: yes or no in ballot

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Yep from me.
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Re: yes or no in ballot

Post by DirtyHarry »

It's either, yes, we are not going to take this lying down.
Or, No, I'm willing to see my terms and conditions all but wiped out, and to top it off be given a insulting pay increase just to rub salt into our wounds.

I voted, Yes. We can't just roll over for people like Thompson.
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Re: yes or no in ballot

Post by GlassDoor »

wacka48 wrote:
05 Feb 2023, 12:30
Ffs it aint a beano just vote yes as the union asks
Weird, I thought this was a fair and democratic vote
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Re: yes or no in ballot

Post by sindba »

Eduardo wrote:
05 Feb 2023, 17:44
I mean after all we are unskilled labour.
No we're not.

How many new starters walk away after two days, once they realise how difficult the job is?

How often do we say on here, I'd love to see managers or Simon Thompson do a full day on my delivery?

The reality is, this is a difficult job and it only suits people with a very specific skillset. The physicality alone sees to that.