ANNOUNCEMENT : ALL OF ROYAL MAIL'S EMPLOYMENT POLICIES (AGREEMENTS) AT A GLANCE (Updated 2021)... HERE

ANNOUNCEMENT : PLEASE BE AWARE WE ARE NOT ON FACEBOOK AT ALL!

New Strike date

Pay talks 2022 discussion, news, LTB's RMCtv and all BUSINESS RECOVERY, TRANSFORMATION AND GROWTH AGREEMENT chat
Ferrari5825
MAIL CENTRES/PROCESSING
Posts: 40
Joined: 07 Feb 2021, 06:23
Gender: Male

Re: New Strike date

Post by Ferrari5825 »

pieoftheday wrote:
02 Feb 2023, 19:01
Ferrari5825 wrote:
02 Feb 2023, 18:53
pieoftheday wrote:
02 Feb 2023, 18:37
Ferrari5825 wrote:
02 Feb 2023, 18:14
pieoftheday wrote:
02 Feb 2023, 18:07
Ferrari5825 wrote:
02 Feb 2023, 17:00
I'm probably going to get a bit of flack for putting this, but as someone who's low on seniority and potentially going to lose my job because of these job repicks being implemented through executive action, i just can't be bothered and don't see the point in striking anymore.

Especially when there are hard working people who have striked all through this, just to have their contracted hours taken from them (in some cases, almost half of the hours they have now.)
People have had their contracted hours reduced? By half? So full timers have been made part time?
I don't want to state to much, as to avoid giving away where i work, but the hours they were on, was close to full time hours, but considered part time. They have been given notice that the hours they are on, are no longer needed and they are to return to their previous duty hours, in some cases going back onto 16-18 hours etc.
Its crap they're losing OT but OT isnt contracted hours
It wasn't O.T they were on, they were on temporary contracts, which is why they have been changed back. Also, they weren't on F.T, they were just shy of F.T, hence why they could go back down.
Its crap either way, one of my mates was made up temporary full time but knew it could be taken away at any time.
Yeah, it really sucks for the people it's happened to. Some of them are really hard workers too and this is the thanks they get for it.
post6675
Posts: 168
Joined: 05 Dec 2022, 11:10
Gender: Male

Re: New Strike date

Post by post6675 »

This just screams utterly pointless. One day is not going to do anything looks like union are just doing something for the sake of it. One day RM will not care
pieoftheday
Posts: 1834
Joined: 11 Mar 2010, 16:43
Gender: Male

Re: New Strike date

Post by pieoftheday »

Ferrari5825 wrote:
02 Feb 2023, 19:06
pieoftheday wrote:
02 Feb 2023, 19:01
Ferrari5825 wrote:
02 Feb 2023, 18:53
pieoftheday wrote:
02 Feb 2023, 18:37
Ferrari5825 wrote:
02 Feb 2023, 18:14
pieoftheday wrote:
02 Feb 2023, 18:07
Ferrari5825 wrote:
02 Feb 2023, 17:00
I'm probably going to get a bit of flack for putting this, but as someone who's low on seniority and potentially going to lose my job because of these job repicks being implemented through executive action, i just can't be bothered and don't see the point in striking anymore.

Especially when there are hard working people who have striked all through this, just to have their contracted hours taken from them (in some cases, almost half of the hours they have now.)
People have had their contracted hours reduced? By half? So full timers have been made part time?
I don't want to state to much, as to avoid giving away where i work, but the hours they were on, was close to full time hours, but considered part time. They have been given notice that the hours they are on, are no longer needed and they are to return to their previous duty hours, in some cases going back onto 16-18 hours etc.
Its crap they're losing OT but OT isnt contracted hours
It wasn't O.T they were on, they were on temporary contracts, which is why they have been changed back. Also, they weren't on F.T, they were just shy of F.T, hence why they could go back down.
Its crap either way, one of my mates was made up temporary full time but knew it could be taken away at any time.
Yeah, it really sucks for the people it's happened to. Some of them are really hard workers too and this is the thanks they get for it.
Its another stupid RM decision, we all know that full time workers are needed
HTPostman
EX ROYAL MAIL
Posts: 1504
Joined: 01 Sep 2008, 23:53
Gender: Male

Re: New Strike date

Post by HTPostman »

The clarity/wording from CWU on this is woeful - a lot of confusion from colleagues about what day/what time we are striking.

Even the BBC have us as their 4th story with the headline ‘Royal Mail workers to strike again on 16 February’ and the main article says ‘About 115,000 workers will strike from 12:30pm on Thursday 16 February, until 12.30pm on Friday 17 February.’
The day is gonna come when we’re all gonna have to testify.

526
badger1
Posts: 49
Joined: 24 Oct 2007, 18:48

Re: New Strike date

Post by badger1 »

Our rep bought in his daughter over Christmas, that’s the level of commitment from some reps
wandle
Posts: 944
Joined: 25 Feb 2011, 17:17
Gender: Male

Re: New Strike date

Post by wandle »

david1456uk wrote:
02 Feb 2023, 17:20
Total waste the union would be much better saving their ammo and getting a big fat yes vote through. Already tou can see the reaction on here .
You realise that the 14-day notice means any strike called after the re-ballot cannot be before the 1st week of March?
RM are already forcing stuff through via Executive Action. How much more imposed will they have completed in four weeks’ time? THEN you might as well say ‘what’s the point, now?’
‘If you fight, you may not win. But if you don’t fight, you will always lose’
FilthyBloke
Posts: 685
Joined: 03 Jun 2018, 11:41
Gender: Male

Re: New Strike date

Post by FilthyBloke »

Don’t really see the point of a one day strike during a quiet period.
Oh well.
stan_lers
Posts: 136
Joined: 04 Nov 2014, 21:52
Gender: Male

Re: New Strike date

Post by stan_lers »

HTPostman wrote:
02 Feb 2023, 19:22
The clarity/wording from CWU on this is woeful - a lot of confusion from colleagues about what day/what time we are striking.

Even the BBC have us as their 4th story with the headline ‘Royal Mail workers to strike again on 16 February’ and the main article says ‘About 115,000 workers will strike from 12:30pm on Thursday 16 February, until 12.30pm on Friday 17 February.’
Not really - as someone who works shifts, all of the previous strike dates have worked this way.

If your duty starts during the strike hours, you don't come in. If you're working 6-2 then you're already at work so you finish your shift and strike on Friday, as that shift starts during the strike hours.

If you're working 2-10, the start o your shift falls during the strike hours on the Thursday, so you strike on Thursday and work on Friday.
david1456uk
Posts: 48
Joined: 07 Apr 2010, 17:50
Gender: Male

Re: New Strike date

Post by david1456uk »

wandle wrote:
02 Feb 2023, 19:44
david1456uk wrote:
02 Feb 2023, 17:20
Total waste the union would be much better saving their ammo and getting a big fat yes vote through. Already tou can see the reaction on here .
You realise that the 14-day notice means any strike called after the re-ballot cannot be before the 1st week of March?
RM are already forcing stuff through via Executive Action. How much more imposed will they have completed in four weeks’ time? THEN you might as well say ‘what’s the point, now?’
‘If you fight, you may not win. But if you don’t fight, you will always lose’
You win by playing smart by not just losing members a full data pay for nothing. The members sat on the fence who have not sent their ballots in will see this and they could vote no .Look at the public they don't care about rm anymore .S marter move would be conveying to the members a more joined up plan not one day strikes that will do f all .lots of smarter ways to bring this sorry lot down.
Ppat98
Posts: 217
Joined: 27 Sep 2022, 15:08
Gender: Male

Re: New Strike date

Post by Ppat98 »

Would of hurt RM more if we striked a couple days earlier on Valentine's Day. Flower companies would be bailing on RM. I'm still gonna strike but the union aren't hurting RM at all. Mother's Day in March need's to be a strike day on the list.
Splappy_McSplap
Posts: 226
Joined: 02 Sep 2009, 13:55
Gender: Male

Re: New Strike date

Post by Splappy_McSplap »

I think it was this or do nothing (in response to the executive action without using the Industrial Framework as ST had agreed to not even that long ago), and doing nothing would have looked much worse.

Hopefully when it comes to the post-ballot strikes they will have a better strategy, e.g a week out at a time with four or five weeks rest.
wandle
Posts: 944
Joined: 25 Feb 2011, 17:17
Gender: Male

Re: New Strike date

Post by wandle »

david1456uk thé point of setting a strike day is that it creates a climate of uncertainty for bulk-posting businesses who use Royal Mail. If they don’t know whether the strikes are going to continue, they will potentially threaten to switch contracts to rival couriers like Evri. RM cannot keep haemorrhaging customers indefinitely. It’s no good Simon Thompson winning the war if there’s no customers (posting customers) left at the end of the battle
TopperGas
Posts: 3458
Joined: 13 Feb 2021, 22:46
Gender: Male

Re: New Strike date

Post by TopperGas »

wandle wrote:
02 Feb 2023, 20:23
david1456uk thé point of setting a strike day is that it creates a climate of uncertainty for bulk-posting businesses who use Royal Mail. If they don’t know whether the strikes are going to continue, they will potentially threaten to switch contracts to rival couriers like Evri. RM cannot keep haemorrhaging customers indefinitely. It’s no good Simon Thompson winning the war if there’s no customers (posting customers) left at the end of the battle
How many customers are really going to jump couriers because we're striking on the 17th? The 13th or 14th might well have caused them concerns if they thought Valentines Flowers/cards/presents etc weren't guaranteed to be delivered by the 14th, I can't see many bothering that parcels might be delayed by a day on the 17th.
grchpo
Posts: 488
Joined: 16 Mar 2019, 13:59
Gender: Male

Re: New Strike date

Post by grchpo »

And every Tom, Dick & Harry will be in early on Saturday to clear their duty. What a waste of time & our money.How about banning the overtime? Before you say it can't be done, that's cr*p, everyone knows who is on overtime.
TOWER1
Posts: 95
Joined: 24 Sep 2019, 16:05
Gender: Male

Re: New Strike date

Post by TOWER1 »

HTPostman wrote:
02 Feb 2023, 19:22
The clarity/wording from CWU on this is woeful - a lot of confusion from colleagues about what day/what time we are striking.

Even the BBC have us as their 4th story with the headline ‘Royal Mail workers to strike again on 16 February’ and the main article says ‘About 115,000 workers will strike from 12:30pm on Thursday 16 February, until 12.30pm on Friday 17 February.’
Albeit it's been clarified, but not the best form of communication, from the Communication Union....
Also not sure what this day of action will achieve as many on here have stated.... perhaps to augment " We are still here" campaign?
I am confident there will be a massive Yes vote coming up, coupled with working to time after the implementation of these revisions will be more effective.