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Has anybody had there meal break times changed ?

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Seagull1983
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Has anybody had there meal break times changed ?

Post by Seagull1983 »

We now do 20 mins before we go out and have to sit in the office tea room for 20mins at the end of the day. We used to be able to go 20 mins early. It seems like such a waste of time. And our manager keeps joining us in the tea room during our breaks !!!
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Isn’t it because the signing out pda doesn’t acknowledge that you are signing out 20 mins early because of your break? It just notes that you signed out 20 mins early.
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Seagull1983 wrote:
01 Feb 2023, 16:00
We now do 20 mins before we go out and have to sit in the office tea room for 20mins at the end of the day. We used to be able to go 20 mins early. It seems like such a waste of time. And our manager keeps joining us in the tea room during our breaks !!!
Not happened to us yet, we are still having 20 mins before we go out then we can leave 20 min before end of our duty time! think if they tried this with us I would just inform them that from now on I would be taking the full 40 mins before I leave to go out on delivery, then returning off delivery 10 mins before end of duty ( 10 mins pouching off time)
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Re: Has anybody had there meal break times changed ?

Post by heraldmoth »

Whats a meal break
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Post by demon »

I will be taking my full meal break outside of the office at a time I feel hungry or need a rest how can they say take half in the office when you have only been in work about 2 hours and probably just had ya breakfast at home before coming to work
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Re: Has anybody had there meal break times changed ?

Post by rambo1 »

Barnacle wrote:
01 Feb 2023, 16:07
Isn’t it because the signing out pda doesn’t acknowledge that you are signing out 20 mins early because of your break? It just notes that you signed out 20 mins early.
Hows that work if you are FT working with PT who comes in just as you are taking your first break? What happens if they want their break halfway through their day as they are entitled to?
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rambo1 wrote:
01 Feb 2023, 17:08
Barnacle wrote:
01 Feb 2023, 16:07
Isn’t it because the signing out pda doesn’t acknowledge that you are signing out 20 mins early because of your break? It just notes that you signed out 20 mins early.
Hows that work if you are FT working with PT who comes in just as you are taking your first break? What happens if they want their break halfway through their day as they are entitled to?
You both finish at the same time don’t you? They can take their break in the middle as usual.
The SISO doesn’t care about your breaks until that last break where people have been finishing 20 mins ‘early’ by using their break at the end. You can’t do that now because they are logging that as you finishing early.
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Post by FAB »

Having the second 20 minute at the end in our office. I found ever since they stopped the second delivery years ago any breaks you have never really benefit you. Having a full break after the first delivery and them a short second delivery just seemed so much better. And actually getting home for lunch time! Rather than lunch almost turning into supper! The good old days…
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Post by scoobydo79 »

heraldmoth wrote:
01 Feb 2023, 16:33
Whats a meal break
Something everyone should be taking and not knocking it off your finishing time because then it isn’t a break.
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Post by enskied »

Seagull1983 wrote:
01 Feb 2023, 16:00
We now do 20 mins before we go out and have to sit in the office tea room for 20mins at the end of the day. We used to be able to go 20 mins early. It seems like such a waste of time. And our manager keeps joining us in the tea room during our breaks !!!
If your manager talks about work he/she is interrupting a break. Therefore your break should reset. You get a break from work
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Post by P13 »

heraldmoth wrote:
01 Feb 2023, 16:33
Whats a meal break
A legal requirement
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Post by Barnacle »

When I was a reserve/floater, I never took my break because it just wasn’t done when there was so much to put in etc. plus they could switch you to an entirely different walk after you have spent time prepping the one you thought you were on 😡

But it was okay to claim that break as part of any overtime at the end. We can’t do that anymore not only because of SISO but also because writing any XS on a sheet doesn’t happen anymore. Any overtime or XS has to be agreed at the beginning of the day. They’re keeping a tight rein on any over minutes.

Where the work for the new parcel jobs is going to come from is anyone’s guess.
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Re: Has anybody had there meal break times changed ?

Post by Mr Rush »

I believe at least since P&L was introduced, that management can direct you take your statutory break before departure. Break lengths vary with attendance, but the typical PT break is 30 minutes of which 20 is the legal minimum and the remaining 10 is at your discretion. Obviously the reasonable instruction rule applies - they can't make you take your break having just walked in the door.

At the start of the year our management decreed all staff must take 20 minutes of their break before departure (amongst many other points). Of course, a few weeks on from the declaration there's absolutely no enforcement and FT and PT staff are scanning out early without taking any break.
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Post by dohnut »

We can still sign out, 20 mins early, people line up waiting for the minute we can go.
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Post by SpacePhoenix »

Sounds like some offices are going to lose even more hours, when the higher ups add up all them 20mins across the office, as they'll just see it as people finishing 20mins early