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[POSTMAN]

CWU ballot for six more months of strikes - clarifying some claims

As the CWU launches its third ballot for industrial action, we are seeing more and more misleading statements circulating on our pay and change dispute.

This is designed to create fear and uncertainty amongst our people as the CWU tries to build support for further damaging strikes, instead of focusing on agreeing a deal to deliver a pay rise for our people who have already lost around £1,800 each after 18 days of strikes.

You may have seen the CWU’s Facebook live last night, which including a number of statements that are not true, so we thought it would be useful to clarify some points:

CWU false claim 1:
Christmas strikes did two things – brought Royal Mail back to negotiations and brought the biggest concession, no compulsory redundancies
The truth:
On 23 November 2022 we issued our best and final offer, which included a commitment to no compulsory redundancies until after March 2023. This was ahead of December strike dates.
Then, on 15 December 2022, we committed to no compulsory redundancies at all before the Christmas strike action.

CWU false claim 2:
We got “no compulsory” dumped and make no mistake, they wanted to make people compulsorily redundant on the 14 October - that’s what they announced to the markets.
The truth:
On 14 October 2022 we made a trading update to the market announcing a reduction in non-managerial, operational roles. We expressly stated that wherever possible, we will look to achieve this through natural attrition (not replacing people when they leave), and reductions in overtime and temporary staff.
We did not announce compulsory redundancies at any stage, and said we will offer a voluntary redundancy scheme.

CWU false claim 3:
The outcome of this dispute rests on the outcome of this ballot
The truth:
This ballot is not seeking the opinion of our people on the content of the deal on the table. CWU has refused to put our offer to its members so far.
Rather this is about voting for further strike action. We have made our best and final offer, as we simply cannot afford any more. But the CWU is not letting members decide if they want to accept it.

Voting ‘yes’ in this current ballot is voting for six more months of strike, lost pay and more damage to our already loss-making business.

With improvements made based on employee feedback, this is now a deal that includes:
A pay package worth up to 9%
Later start times that only move by an hour or less for 40% of our people and between 1-2 hours for another 45%. Only one in 10 offices will see a 2-3 hour change, which will phase in over three years, with family friendly options where possible
Sunday working is voluntary in Delivery
And on allowances, the RRIS (Regional Recruitment Incentive Supplement), TPM (Total Productive Maintenance) and Sunday Premium allowances will no longer be phased out.

But the further we go in this dispute, the more unaffordable this deal becomes. We are not too big to fail. It’s really important that everyone understands this.

You may have seen today that we have been invited to provide further clarification as part of a second Select Committee hearing. We welcome the opportunity to expand on any points on which the Committee would like clarification, and share the steps we are taking to resolve this dispute and secure the long-term future of Royal Mail for our people and customers. When we know more details of the timings of this, we will let you know.

[fb1969]

"You may have seen today that we have been invited to provide further clarification as part of a second Select Committee hearing"

Those weren't the words used. The committee is recalling the CEO as they feel some of the answers given were not wholly accurate.

[postslippete]

The CWU won't put Royal Mail's offer to us because they know its a sh*te offer


Why don't Royal Mail get it?? I couldn't care less whether the company can afford any more because this dispute is not purely about the MONEY



The main reason why the company has gone from making over £750 million group profit to being loss-making is due to the total arrogance and incompetence of the Royal Mail board. The fact that they are having a to face a 2nd Select Committee and they are making out as if its for all their benefit qualifies what I have just said.

I'm glad they have sorted out Sunday working as it took them long enough!! Unfortunately they are not quite selling the later start and finish times very well. Honestly, if they are that desperate for us to all to start later then they should in return allow us not to finish as late. Seems like a fair enough compromise to me because all its designed to do is make our outdoor duties even bigger. Its abundantly obvious that there is no way that posties will want to do any extra lapsing or annualised hours if we are finishing later.

[guardianangel]

Simon false claim 1 :we do not prioritise parcels over letters.
He does
Simon false claim 2 :i did not change the bonus scheme to benefit myself.
He did
Simon false claim 3 : There is no bullying and harassment from managers .
There is
Simon false claim 4 :I never said we had a 1.7 billion war chest.
He did
Simon false claim 5 : We are not attacking sick pay
He is
and it goes on, the bloke is a pathological liar,perjurer,cheat and fraud
IM VOTING YES !!!!!!

[Acca Dacca]

On November 26th Alistair Wood of RM sent the union a letter asking Dave and Andy to meet to discuss what criteria would be used for potential compulsory redundancies. In the letter he listed some suggestions which included conduct, sick record, customer complaints and not having a driving license.

Why was this letter sent it compulsory redundancies were NEVER a possibility in the then near future?

The only two reasons are because there would be or because they wanted us to think there would be to scare us.

They have refused to acknowledge this letter was ever sent to the CWU

Liars is what they are.

[pieoftheday]

Liars and bullies, just like Post Office management have been over the last 20 odd years

[Grads75]

Simon false claim 1 :we do not prioritise parcels over letters.
He does
Simon false claim 2 :i did not change the bonus scheme to benefit myself.
He did
Simon false claim 3 : There is no bullying and harassment from managers .
There is
Simon false claim 4 :I never said we had a 1.7 billion war chest.
He did
Simon false claim 5 : We are not attacking sick pay
He is
and it goes on, the bloke is a pathological liar,perjurer,cheat and fraud
IM VOTING YES !!!!!!

Well said

[chickenwittle]

Invited back to face the committee , ordered back .

[bowie]

Already sent back it’s a yes from me,thompson and Williams have to go

[Cedar_Room]

Voted YES

[bongo_fury]

Voted yes.

[broughts]

Yes from me

[parforthewalk]

Voting - I used to be indecisive, but now I'm not so sure!

[derricksmyth]

Voting - I used to be indecisive, but now I'm not so sure!

Very Good, Thanks Postman, I have now made up my mind and definitely voted YES. Sending my ballot paper back Registered!!!

[derricksmyth]

CWU ballot for six more months of strikes - clarifying some claims

As the CWU launches its third ballot for industrial action, we are seeing more and more misleading statements circulating on our pay and change dispute.

This is designed to create fear and uncertainty amongst our people as the CWU tries to build support for further damaging strikes, instead of focusing on agreeing a deal to deliver a pay rise for our people who have already lost around £1,800 each after 18 days of strikes.

You may have seen the CWU’s Facebook live last night, which including a number of statements that are not true, so we thought it would be useful to clarify some points:

CWU false claim 1:
Christmas strikes did two things – brought Royal Mail back to negotiations and brought the biggest concession, no compulsory redundancies
The truth:
On 23 November 2022 we issued our best and final offer, which included a commitment to no compulsory redundancies until after March 2023. This was ahead of December strike dates.
Then, on 15 December 2022, we committed to no compulsory redundancies at all before the Christmas strike action.

CWU false claim 2:
We got “no compulsory” dumped and make no mistake, they wanted to make people compulsorily redundant on the 14 October - that’s what they announced to the markets.
The truth:
On 14 October 2022 we made a trading update to the market announcing a reduction in non-managerial, operational roles. We expressly stated that wherever possible, we will look to achieve this through natural attrition (not replacing people when they leave), and reductions in overtime and temporary staff.
We did not announce compulsory redundancies at any stage, and said we will offer a voluntary redundancy scheme.

CWU false claim 3:
The outcome of this dispute rests on the outcome of this ballot
The truth:
This ballot is not seeking the opinion of our people on the content of the deal on the table. CWU has refused to put our offer to its members so far.
Rather this is about voting for further strike action. We have made our best and final offer, as we simply cannot afford any more. But the CWU is not letting members decide if they want to accept it.

Voting ‘yes’ in this current ballot is voting for six more months of strike, lost pay and more damage to our already loss-making business.

With improvements made based on employee feedback, this is now a deal that includes:
A pay package worth up to 9%
Later start times that only move by an hour or less for 40% of our people and between 1-2 hours for another 45%. Only one in 10 offices will see a 2-3 hour change, which will phase in over three years, with family friendly options where possible
Sunday working is voluntary in Delivery
And on allowances, the RRIS (Regional Recruitment Incentive Supplement), TPM (Total Productive Maintenance) and Sunday Premium allowances will no longer be phased out.

But the further we go in this dispute, the more unaffordable this deal becomes. We are not too big to fail. It’s really important that everyone understands this.

You may have seen today that we have been invited to provide further clarification as part of a second Select Committee hearing. We welcome the opportunity to expand on any points on which the Committee would like clarification, and share the steps we are taking to resolve this dispute and secure the long-term future of Royal Mail for our people and customers. When we know more details of the timings of this, we will let you know.

I used to think site administrators were impartial! How nieve I am to believe a word of this!!