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No sick pay without a doctor's note

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parforthewalk
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Re: No sick pay without a doctor's note

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srilfc2013 wrote:
06 Jan 2023, 12:34
I have a fit note, due to go back in on Tuesday. Had a phone call today telling me to come in tomorrow for a couple of hours as Royal Mail won't pay me, I will only get statutory pay. Told them that they were just making their own rules up now. Was told that I was fit enough to do a couple of hours even though note says not fit to work.
The important point to remember is that the office DOM (Doctor Of Medicine), has been duly promoted to COM (Consultant Of Medicine) :chuckle
Nickvilla20
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Re: No sick pay without a doctor's note

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parforthewalk wrote:
06 Jan 2023, 23:56
srilfc2013 wrote:
06 Jan 2023, 12:34
I have a fit note, due to go back in on Tuesday. Had a phone call today telling me to come in tomorrow for a couple of hours as Royal Mail won't pay me, I will only get statutory pay. Told them that they were just making their own rules up now. Was told that I was fit enough to do a couple of hours even though note says not fit to work.
The important point to remember is that the office DOM (Doctor Of Medicine), has been duly promoted to COM (Consultant Of Medicine) :chuckle
Brilliant :chuckle :chuckle
LaggyBand
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Re: No sick pay without a doctor's note

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I just read through this whole thread, so what’s the bottom line here? Do we need to get a doctors note for the first week? Or is this just one office taking the piss?
moonjaguar
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Re: No sick pay without a doctor's note

Post by moonjaguar »

LaggyBand wrote:
10 Jan 2023, 07:13
I just read through this whole thread, so what’s the bottom line here? Do we need to get a doctors note for the first week? Or is this just one office taking the piss?
Been told in our office too - no sick note, no pay. My GP won't give one for being off under seven days so I either go in sick or stay off for a week. Another brilliant idea from RM.
LaggyBand
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Re: No sick pay without a doctor's note

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moonjaguar wrote:
10 Jan 2023, 11:56
LaggyBand wrote:
10 Jan 2023, 07:13
I just read through this whole thread, so what’s the bottom line here? Do we need to get a doctors note for the first week? Or is this just one office taking the piss?
Been told in our office too - no sick note, no pay. My GP won't give one for being off under seven days so I either go in sick or stay off for a week. Another brilliant idea from RM.
This can’t be a national thing surely… must just be rogue gaffers trying it on?
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Re: No sick pay without a doctor's note

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I'm currently on long term sick, went in to see my manager other day,just a general chat on my well being and asked when if I might be back ,no mention of stopping pay.he was understanding and really good about things,
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Re: No sick pay without a doctor's note

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pieoftheday wrote:
10 Jan 2023, 13:17
I'm currently on long term sick, went in to see my manager other day,just a general chat on my well being and asked when if I might be back ,no mention of stopping pay.he was understanding and really good about things,
That’s good to hear :)

So hopefully it is just a rogue manager. There are a few who are really enjoying turning the screw on us.
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
post6675
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Re: No sick pay without a doctor's note

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Not suprised RM is coming after and changing sick pay it is absolutely abused and taken the piss out of in my office
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Re: No sick pay without a doctor's note

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pieoftheday wrote:
10 Jan 2023, 13:17
I'm currently on long term sick, went in to see my manager other day,just a general chat on my well being and asked when if I might be back ,no mention of stopping pay.he was understanding and really good about things,
If you've been signed off by your GP there's not a lot RM can do about it, the issue seems to be paying sick pay for the first week of absence without a sick note, there's even staff who've suffered injuries at work apparently being denied sick pay.
pieoftheday
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Re: No sick pay without a doctor's note

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TopperGas wrote:
10 Jan 2023, 21:40
pieoftheday wrote:
10 Jan 2023, 13:17
I'm currently on long term sick, went in to see my manager other day,just a general chat on my well being and asked when if I might be back ,no mention of stopping pay.he was understanding and really good about things,
If you've been signed off by your GP there's not a lot RM can do about it, the issue seems to be paying sick pay for the first week of absence without a sick note, there's even staff who've suffered injuries at work apparently being denied sick pay.
Yes , however in the past I've had managers try to gently bully me back to work even though I've had a Drs note,this has happened to colleagues too with some buckling under pressure, so it was a bit surprising that there wasnt any push for me to return
roman
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Re: No sick pay without a doctor's note

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There’s a few in my office been off for months and not being chased up.Reckon their hoping you’ll just resign due to I’ll health.
Splappy_McSplap
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Re: No sick pay without a doctor's note

Post by Splappy_McSplap »

post6675 wrote:
10 Jan 2023, 16:26
Not suprised RM is coming after and changing sick pay it is absolutely abused and taken the piss out of in my office
Every office has these people.

You don't fix it by punishing everyone.

You fix it by taking a look at that person's absences over the length of their employment, finding a pattern, warning them, and then sacking them.
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Re: No sick pay without a doctor's note

Post by k979aaa »

Splappy_McSplap wrote:
13 Jan 2023, 10:29
post6675 wrote:
10 Jan 2023, 16:26
Not suprised RM is coming after and changing sick pay it is absolutely abused and taken the piss out of in my office
Every office has these people.

You don't fix it by punishing everyone.

You fix it by taking a look at that person's absences over the length of their employment, finding a pattern, warning them, and then sacking them.
Ie the procedure we already have.
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Re: No sick pay without a doctor's note

Post by k979aaa »

TopperGas wrote:
10 Jan 2023, 21:40
pieoftheday wrote:
10 Jan 2023, 13:17
I'm currently on long term sick, went in to see my manager other day,just a general chat on my well being and asked when if I might be back ,no mention of stopping pay.he was understanding and really good about things,
If you've been signed off by your GP there's not a lot RM can do about it, the issue seems to be paying sick pay for the first week of absence without a sick note, there's even staff who've suffered injuries at work apparently being denied sick pay.
Go see a solicitor who deals in employment law give the names of managers and the whole facts and get them to deal with it and I bet they will reinstate pay and back date it!
TopperGas
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Re: No sick pay without a doctor's note

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k979aaa wrote:
14 Jan 2023, 14:39
TopperGas wrote:
10 Jan 2023, 21:40
pieoftheday wrote:
10 Jan 2023, 13:17
I'm currently on long term sick, went in to see my manager other day,just a general chat on my well being and asked when if I might be back ,no mention of stopping pay.he was understanding and really good about things,
If you've been signed off by your GP there's not a lot RM can do about it, the issue seems to be paying sick pay for the first week of absence without a sick note, there's even staff who've suffered injuries at work apparently being denied sick pay.
Go see a solicitor who deals in employment law give the names of managers and the whole facts and get them to deal with it and I bet they will reinstate pay and back date it!
It's a load of hassle just to get sick pay paid when it's always been paid previously, plus who pays the solicitor costs as they ain't working for free?