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New for Tracked - "Can't be safeplaced/neigboured"
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fb1969
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Re: New for Tracked - "Can't be safeplaced/neigboured"
The people coming up with the ideas:
A. Have no knowledge of the actual job
B. Do not speak to anyone else about the great ideas that they have
The average postie could point out potential problems with just about every new idea they have come up with while they rapidly race towards the bottom. But anyone who knows what they are talking about isn't wanted at RM.
A. Have no knowledge of the actual job
B. Do not speak to anyone else about the great ideas that they have
The average postie could point out potential problems with just about every new idea they have come up with while they rapidly race towards the bottom. But anyone who knows what they are talking about isn't wanted at RM.
Royal Mail
failing the workforce, failing the public and deliberately failing mail on a daily basis for too many years.
failing the workforce, failing the public and deliberately failing mail on a daily basis for too many years.
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GRS
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Re: New for Tracked - "Can't be safeplaced/neigboured"
Yep!! Pretty much sums up where we and the business are. Such a bloody shame!!!!fb1969 wrote: ↑04 Jan 2023, 20:35The people coming up with the ideas:
A. Have no knowledge of the actual job
B. Do not speak to anyone else about the great ideas that they have
The average postie could point out potential problems with just about every new idea they have come up with while they rapidly race towards the bottom. But anyone who knows what they are talking about isn't wanted at RM.
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Route1
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Re: New for Tracked - "Can't be safeplaced/neigboured"
Positive. I scanned a few tracks & non-tracks. Left them on the PDA until I got one that needed a signature a loop later. Checked the location of each of them and it showed the point of scan....not when it was submitted. This was before we needed to take for photo for everything.mjd24 wrote: ↑03 Jan 2023, 17:50How sure are you? Makes more sense to me that it would be once submit or whatever has been clicked? But would be good to know for sure if i am wrong.SpacePhoenix wrote: ↑03 Jan 2023, 10:19Fairly sure the PDAs grab the location data when the actual scan is done, not when it's submittedpostieblueshirt wrote: ↑03 Jan 2023, 09:32Not being a smart arse honest but you can scan the parcel anywhere you like as long as you submit the scan at its destination.Splappy_McSplap wrote: ↑01 Jan 2023, 07:52I had the joy of lugging a 15kg box on a 500m or so walk to a shop in an area that I can't park the van at (local buses and cycles only) and finding that the shop I had the box for was closed.
No problem, I thought, the shop a few units down might take it.
Sure thing, they said.
Then, when I scanned the box (as we are supposed to scan the item at its actual destination) it said "Under no circumstances should this item be left with a neighbour".
I wasted my time going there and I wasted their time asking them.
Then I am left standing holding a heavy box with nowhere to deliver it.
Highlight of my day.
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goneaway
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Re: New for Tracked - "Can't be safeplaced/neigboured"
On a slightly related point, in the last few weeks, I've noticed more and more Tracked items that DON'T require you to take a photo when delivering to customer. Most of them have a tracking number that starts XL (I think it is of the top of my head). Do the senders who buy tracked postage with these XL tracking numbers get a discounted rate to those who use tracked where a photo is required on delivery?
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5plusbonusball
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Re: New for Tracked - "Can't be safeplaced/neigboured"
From ebay , ebay seem hell bent on selling other couriers products so they get their commission , still says on there that were striking so "dont use royal mail ", on the topic of ebay , see how many counterfeit stamps are on sale !!
Why are lino's paid full-time ??
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clashcityrocker
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Re: New for Tracked - "Can't be safeplaced/neigboured"
I was told (but have never had it confirmed elsewhere) that if a private individual buys the postage for a Tracked item, it won't require a photo on delivery but for a business it will.
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.
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ted_e_bear
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Re: New for Tracked - "Can't be safeplaced/neigboured"
Recently posted 3 separate items, purchased tracked 48 on the RM app as a private customer, all 3 got a photo.clashcityrocker wrote: ↑05 Jan 2023, 20:05I was told (but have never had it confirmed elsewhere) that if a private individual buys the postage for a Tracked item, it won't require a photo on delivery but for a business it will.
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Buzzkaz
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Re: New for Tracked - "Can't be safeplaced/neigboured"
I posted one to my nephew by tracked 24 so it would arrive for Xmas (it did!), which had a photo taken. However, it was left in a ‘safe place’ in the driveway in front of the car. I hadn’t specified a safe place and neither had my nephew.
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yellowbelly
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Re: New for Tracked - "Can't be safeplaced/neigboured"
That's a typical courier safeplace - who we are competing with according to ST.
Delivered a parcel to a property today to known safeplace (outbuilding). Two courier parcels also left - a cardboard one on the mat by the
rear door which looked like it had got a good soaking overnight and a second one under the garden trampoline on the grass, again cardboard soaking wet.
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goneaway
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Re: New for Tracked - "Can't be safeplaced/neigboured"
These Tracked items with the tracking number starting XL that don't require a photo have been from businesses, not private individuals. The plot thickens.clashcityrocker wrote: ↑05 Jan 2023, 20:05I was told (but have never had it confirmed elsewhere) that if a private individual buys the postage for a Tracked item, it won't require a photo on delivery but for a business it will.
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TopperGas
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Re: New for Tracked - "Can't be safeplaced/neigboured"
You don't need to specify a safe place as a postie can leave it in a safe place they feel is suitable.
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steve1873
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Re: New for Tracked - "Can't be safeplaced/neigboured"
Wrong, the GPS is registered upon scan. So if you scan it 100m from recipients and they then file a denial of receipt, then the GPS will show it delivered 100m away!postieblueshirt wrote: ↑03 Jan 2023, 09:32Not being a smart arse honest but you can scan the parcel anywhere you like as long as you submit the scan at its destination.Splappy_McSplap wrote: ↑01 Jan 2023, 07:52I had the joy of lugging a 15kg box on a 500m or so walk to a shop in an area that I can't park the van at (local buses and cycles only) and finding that the shop I had the box for was closed.
No problem, I thought, the shop a few units down might take it.
Sure thing, they said.
Then, when I scanned the box (as we are supposed to scan the item at its actual destination) it said "Under no circumstances should this item be left with a neighbour".
I wasted my time going there and I wasted their time asking them.
Then I am left standing holding a heavy box with nowhere to deliver it.
Highlight of my day.
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steve1873
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Re: New for Tracked - "Can't be safeplaced/neigboured"
Not trying to be a dick, but what part of "under no circumstances" are you having difficulty understanding?GRS wrote: ↑04 Jan 2023, 19:45What happens if the sender states "not to be left at neighbour or in safe place" but the receiver has stated " If not in please take to neighbour at 23". Both of these flag up on the PDA screen if requested so which one takes priority, by that I mean does one request simply knock the other out of the system or will a postie actually get both messages? Could be interesting!!
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GRS
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Re: New for Tracked - "Can't be safeplaced/neigboured"
If you read what I was saying you will see that I was questioning how will the PDA software actually work if it receives a request from both parties.
I repeat for your benefit - will it flag up both requests to the postie at once or will one request override the earlier one. All I commented was that it would be interesting to see.
Can’t see why you’ve seen the need to make such a comment god knows how long after my original post. Strange one you are!!!
I repeat for your benefit - will it flag up both requests to the postie at once or will one request override the earlier one. All I commented was that it would be interesting to see.
Can’t see why you’ve seen the need to make such a comment god knows how long after my original post. Strange one you are!!!
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Barnacle
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Re: New for Tracked - "Can't be safeplaced/neigboured"
Well today, I had a redelivery on a Tracked packet that I couldn’t deliver the first time as the PDA had expressly told me not to leave under any circumstances.
I normally leave parcels in this customer’s porch because she works. Again, the PDA told me not to leave it. So I didn’t.
Both times I wrote on the form that the item couldn’t be left in the safe place.
Customers are going to complain about this because it’s annoying for them.
I normally leave parcels in this customer’s porch because she works. Again, the PDA told me not to leave it. So I didn’t.
Both times I wrote on the form that the item couldn’t be left in the safe place.
Customers are going to complain about this because it’s annoying for them.
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’