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No sick pay without a doctor's note

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Frankie15
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Re: No sick pay without a doctor's note

Post by Frankie15 »

Who's obsessing?? I couldnt care less what they do. Yes there's a sick policy but they weren't sick. That's my point!! When people are genuinely sick they should not have to lose pay. I just don't think it's right that because of these people who have abused the system for years that now its made RM try to change it!!
Acca Dacca
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Re: No sick pay without a doctor's note

Post by Acca Dacca »

Frankie15 wrote:
05 Jan 2023, 17:27
Who's obsessing?? I couldnt care less what they do. Yes there's a sick policy but they weren't sick. That's my point!! When people are genuinely sick they should not have to lose pay. I just don't think it's right that because of these people who have abused the system for years that now its made RM try to change it!!
If you are telling the truth that your manager has told you all that you cant self certify anymore then I find it very strange that you are choosing to focus your ire on a few colleagues who you feel play the system rather than what you manager is spouting.
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
chickenwittle
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Re: No sick pay without a doctor's note

Post by chickenwittle »

Frankie15 wrote:
05 Jan 2023, 17:27
Who's obsessing?? I couldnt care less what they do. Yes there's a sick policy but they weren't sick. That's my point!! When people are genuinely sick they should not have to lose pay. I just don't think it's right that because of these people who have abused the system for years that now its made RM try to change it!!
This hasn’t made Royal Mail try to change it because Royal Mail want to change everything that the union have fought hard to achieve for its workers , they will just use an example like yours that happens in every other workplace up and down the country as an excuse for their agenda.
sindba
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Re: No sick pay without a doctor's note

Post by sindba »

chickenwittle wrote:
05 Jan 2023, 17:19
Frankie15 wrote:
05 Jan 2023, 17:11
They both said that it was the 1st time in those amount of years. I told you. They openly boast about it
That’s not your problem, amazes me how others obsess over their fellow workers , there’s a sick policy in place in agreement with Royal Mail .
I couldn'r agree more.

"x has an easy duty"
"Y plays the sick system"
"Z is the lino's mate and ghosts"

For a generally tight workforce some are bloody quick to judge our colleagues. Reality is none of us realy know what's going on in other peoples lives, healthwise, workwise, mental health wise etc.

AND. So what if people throw the odd sickie? Everyone does it, in every workplace. It's no skin off your back.
midegarelu
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Re: No sick pay without a doctor's note

Post by midegarelu »

rambo1 wrote:
05 Jan 2023, 14:52
2chorizon wrote:
05 Jan 2023, 09:14
worktotime wrote:
05 Jan 2023, 09:09
and are the CWU going to at least comment on this and what we can do ? , and yet another unagreed action from thompson and his cronies :evil/mad
20min relaxation break being removed from all MC’s from February too according to another thread.

viewtopic.php?f=26&t=107503

We currently get 1hrs worth of breaks 40 mins & 20 mins (in an 8hr shift)

They are capitalising on the CWU taking an extended xmas break until next mon to get all this rolled out!
No doubt there will be lots more EA coming this week
Well we get 40 mins on an 8hr shift so welcome to our world.

This from one of our notice boards. Been around a while. Guess it's a National Agreement.
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rambo1
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Re: No sick pay without a doctor's note

Post by rambo1 »

midegarelu wrote:
05 Jan 2023, 18:14
rambo1 wrote:
05 Jan 2023, 14:52
2chorizon wrote:
05 Jan 2023, 09:14
worktotime wrote:
05 Jan 2023, 09:09
and are the CWU going to at least comment on this and what we can do ? , and yet another unagreed action from thompson and his cronies :evil/mad
20min relaxation break being removed from all MC’s from February too according to another thread.

viewtopic.php?f=26&t=107503

We currently get 1hrs worth of breaks 40 mins & 20 mins (in an 8hr shift)

They are capitalising on the CWU taking an extended xmas break until next mon to get all this rolled out!
No doubt there will be lots more EA coming this week
Well we get 40 mins on an 8hr shift so welcome to our world.

This from one of our notice boards. Been around a while. Guess it's a National Agreement.
Lol. Trust royal mail, work over 11 hrs and you get 10 min less 'relaxation' time.
chickenwittle
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Re: No sick pay without a doctor's note

Post by chickenwittle »

In the job over 30 years and never heard of relaxation time , is this a mail centre thing ?
lobsterhands
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Re: No sick pay without a doctor's note

Post by lobsterhands »

midegarelu wrote:
05 Jan 2023, 18:14
rambo1 wrote:
05 Jan 2023, 14:52
2chorizon wrote:
05 Jan 2023, 09:14
worktotime wrote:
05 Jan 2023, 09:09
and are the CWU going to at least comment on this and what we can do ? , and yet another unagreed action from thompson and his cronies :evil/mad
20min relaxation break being removed from all MC’s from February too according to another thread.

viewtopic.php?f=26&t=107503

We currently get 1hrs worth of breaks 40 mins & 20 mins (in an 8hr shift)

They are capitalising on the CWU taking an extended xmas break until next mon to get all this rolled out!
No doubt there will be lots more EA coming this week
Well we get 40 mins on an 8hr shift so welcome to our world.

This from one of our notice boards. Been around a while. Guess it's a National Agreement.
I’ve worked over 25 years in delivery and 3 different offices and never seen or heard of such a thing as a relaxation break ?
learn something new every day with RM
pieoftheday
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Re: No sick pay without a doctor's note

Post by pieoftheday »

I'd forgotten about those breaks, when our DO was a 24hr office ,25yr ago we had a 10 minute coffee break mid afternoon or night shift
2chorizon
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Re: No sick pay without a doctor's note

Post by 2chorizon »

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2chorizon
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Re: No sick pay without a doctor's note

Post by 2chorizon »

midegarelu wrote:
05 Jan 2023, 18:14
rambo1 wrote:
05 Jan 2023, 14:52
2chorizon wrote:
05 Jan 2023, 09:14
worktotime wrote:
05 Jan 2023, 09:09
and are the CWU going to at least comment on this and what we can do ? , and yet another unagreed action from thompson and his cronies :evil/mad
20min relaxation break being removed from all MC’s from February too according to another thread.

viewtopic.php?f=26&t=107503

We currently get 1hrs worth of breaks 40 mins & 20 mins (in an 8hr shift)

They are capitalising on the CWU taking an extended xmas break until next mon to get all this rolled out!
No doubt there will be lots more EA coming this week
Well we get 40 mins on an 8hr shift so welcome to our world.

This from one of our notice boards. Been around a while. Guess it's a National Agreement.
WOW! Cheers man!
britwrit
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Re: No sick pay without a doctor's note

Post by britwrit »

Basically it's there because managers want to get done with their paperwork on time.
GRS
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Re: No sick pay without a doctor's note

Post by GRS »

chickenwittle wrote:
05 Jan 2023, 17:19
Frankie15 wrote:
05 Jan 2023, 17:11
They both said that it was the 1st time in those amount of years. I told you. They openly boast about it
That’s not your problem, amazes me how others obsess over their fellow workers , there’s a sick policy in place in agreement with Royal Mail .
Absolutely!!! Posties at ours know exactly what time A came in that morning, what time B started prepping, which columns of d2d C is doing that they shouldn't be doing, what time A left the office for delivery, how many times B spoke to the guv that morning etc etc. I've said it before some of you guys have got an illness, it's not normal to be so obsessed with other people!
hans solo
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Re: No sick pay without a doctor's note

Post by hans solo »

It’s not a normal company we work for
hans solo
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Re: No sick pay without a doctor's note

Post by hans solo »

And opgs used to get a 10 min tea break before commencing delivery
Was never officially done away with but with sdd agreement everyone was so bothered about finishing early they just didn’t take it
Think I will reintroduce this see what mgmt say
When I ask for documentation on the matter 🤔