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No sick pay without a doctor's note

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blacov
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Re: No sick pay without a doctor's note

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blacov
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Re: No sick pay without a doctor's note

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thefox wrote:
05 Jan 2023, 11:08
Chitchat wrote:
05 Jan 2023, 09:55
Royal mail know that you won't be able to get a doctor's note for the 1st week. Hence why they are doing it.
How would a doctor know that its your first week but,could you not just say i self cert last week even though you didn't and get it from your first day sick.
This is how it should be approached. Well thought :thumbup

On the other hand being forced to lie to your doctor is the new lowest from royal mail.
2chorizon
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Re: No sick pay without a doctor's note

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thefox wrote:
05 Jan 2023, 11:10
2chorizon wrote:
05 Jan 2023, 09:14
worktotime wrote:
05 Jan 2023, 09:09
and are the CWU going to at least comment on this and what we can do ? , and yet another unagreed action from thompson and his cronies :evil/mad
20min relaxation break being removed from all MC’s from February too according to another thread.

viewtopic.php?f=26&t=107503

We currently get 1hrs worth of breaks 40 mins & 20 mins (in an 8hr shift)

They are capitalising on the CWU taking an extended xmas break until next mon to get all this rolled out!
No doubt there will be lots more EA coming this week
Relaxation break🤔 never heard of that before could be doing with some of that on delivery.
You have no idea how hard MC bod’s graft









:cuppa
Acca Dacca
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Re: No sick pay without a doctor's note

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Sounds like absolute nonsense to me

Don’t believe it
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
parforthewalk
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Re: No sick pay without a doctor's note

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Stick in a grievance & quote current government legislation re sick pay etc

If in the union, ring/contact the unionline legal team. Phone number on your CWU card or contact your nearest Branch Secretary for advice :thumbup
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Re: No sick pay without a doctor's note

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Ask your manager to put it in writing so you can take the letter to your gp for a retrospective sick note , I bet he doesn’t.
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Re: No sick pay without a doctor's note

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chickenwittle wrote:
05 Jan 2023, 12:13
Ask your manager to put it in writing so you can take the letter to your gp for a retrospective sick note , I bet he doesn’t.
Exactly what I would do. Managers can say what they want but unless it's in writing it means diddly squat
On the face of it, shareholder value is the dumbest idea in the world.
Barnacle
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Re: No sick pay without a doctor's note

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Good luck getting an appointment let alone a sick note 🙄

Doctors don’t want to see you if you are ill.

If you are ill, how are you going to get to a doctor to bother them anyway 🙄🙄
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
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Re: No sick pay without a doctor's note

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postslippete wrote:
05 Jan 2023, 13:24
chickenwittle wrote:
05 Jan 2023, 12:13
Ask your manager to put it in writing so you can take the letter to your gp for a retrospective sick note , I bet he doesn’t.
Exactly what I would do. Managers can say what they want but unless it's in writing it means diddly squat
Brilliant 🤩
That’s exactly what I will do.
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
Frankie15
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Re: No sick pay without a doctor's note

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One thing I do know is, that being told that you aren't getting sick pay contains miracles! A couple of lazy b******s in our office pull the same sickie every year, the week after Christmas. Well the same boyos tried it last week to be told that they weren't getting paid. Guess what?? All of a sudden they weren't as sick as they thought and were in work next day!!
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Re: No sick pay without a doctor's note

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Frankie15 wrote:
05 Jan 2023, 13:50
One thing I do know is, that being told that you aren't getting sick pay contains miracles! A couple of lazy b******s in our office pull the same sickie every year, the week after Christmas. Well the same boyos tried it last week to be told that they weren't getting paid. Guess what?? All of a sudden they weren't as sick as they thought and were in work next day!!
Not really , it bullies people into coming to work when they aren’t 100% .Makes me laugh when people accuse others of milking the system. Royal Mail have a sick policy and guidelines that they’ve signed up to . Why should people struggle through a days work when the company has no real compassion for them.
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Re: No sick pay without a doctor's note

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2chorizon wrote:
05 Jan 2023, 09:14
worktotime wrote:
05 Jan 2023, 09:09
and are the CWU going to at least comment on this and what we can do ? , and yet another unagreed action from thompson and his cronies :evil/mad
20min relaxation break being removed from all MC’s from February too according to another thread.

viewtopic.php?f=26&t=107503

We currently get 1hrs worth of breaks 40 mins & 20 mins (in an 8hr shift)

They are capitalising on the CWU taking an extended xmas break until next mon to get all this rolled out!
No doubt there will be lots more EA coming this week
Well we get 40 mins on an 8hr shift so welcome to our world.
thefox
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Re: No sick pay without a doctor's note

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Frankie15 wrote:
05 Jan 2023, 13:50
One thing I do know is, that being told that you aren't getting sick pay contains miracles! A couple of lazy b******s in our office pull the same sickie every year, the week after Christmas. Well the same boyos tried it last week to be told that they weren't getting paid. Guess what?? All of a sudden they weren't as sick as they thought and were in work next day!!
Thing is this aint just aimed at guys playing the system its aimed at everyone might not be as funny if you are floored with the flu but still have to come into work to put food in your children's stomachs or a roof over their head.
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Re: No sick pay without a doctor's note

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chickenwittle wrote:
05 Jan 2023, 12:13
Ask your manager to put it in writing so you can take the letter to your gp for a retrospective sick note , I bet he doesn’t.
This is coming from above probably Simon, and it's nationwide including managers. Our manager told us to put pressure on our union to fight this.
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Re: No sick pay without a doctor's note

Post by Splappy_McSplap »

thefox wrote:
05 Jan 2023, 14:54
might not be as funny if you are floored with the flu but still have to come into work to put food in your children's stomachs or a roof over their head.
...or if someone else, who has a tight budget, and the flu, comes in sick because they won't get paid otherwise, and gives it to you.