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No sick pay without a doctor's note

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Chitchat
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No sick pay without a doctor's note

Post by Chitchat »

Been told today, no sick pay unless you have a doctor's note! Been told it's nationwide including managers.
SpacePhoenix
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Re: No sick pay without a doctor's note

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Chitchat wrote:
05 Jan 2023, 08:36
Been told today, no sick pay unless you have a doctor's note! Been told it's nationwide including managers.
Going to be a lot of pissed of doctors, when I believe that legally you can self-certify for 5 days
2chorizon
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Re: No sick pay without a doctor's note

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SpacePhoenix wrote:
05 Jan 2023, 08:41
Chitchat wrote:
05 Jan 2023, 08:36
Been told today, no sick pay unless you have a doctor's note! Been told it's nationwide including managers.
Going to be a lot of pissed of doctors, when I believe that legally you can self-certify for 5 days
7 days
2chorizon
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Re: No sick pay without a doctor's note

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Chitchat wrote:
05 Jan 2023, 08:36
Been told today, no sick pay unless you have a doctor's note! Been told it's nationwide including managers.
They won’t be able to enforce that, ive seen it tried before in other companies always got dropped like a hot potato when complaints from GP’s started
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Re: No sick pay without a doctor's note

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Always told by my GP practice to self certify up to 7 days and not to waste their time with more paperwork
rambo1
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Re: No sick pay without a doctor's note

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As far as I'm concerned if they ain't paying you, it means you can basically self cert yourself to a week unpaid leave and do what you want.
Beanyjazz
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Re: No sick pay without a doctor's note

Post by Beanyjazz »

On the government's own website.

Self-certification
If employees are off work for 7 days or less, they do not need to give their employer a fit note or other proof of sickness from a healthcare professional.

When they return to work, their employer can ask them to confirm they’ve been off sick. This is called ‘self-certification’

https://www.gov.uk/taking-sick-leave#:~ ... tification'.
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Re: No sick pay without a doctor's note

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and are the CWU going to at least comment on this and what we can do ? , and yet another unagreed action from thompson and his cronies :evil/mad
2chorizon
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Re: No sick pay without a doctor's note

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worktotime wrote:
05 Jan 2023, 09:09
and are the CWU going to at least comment on this and what we can do ? , and yet another unagreed action from thompson and his cronies :evil/mad
20min relaxation break being removed from all MC’s from February too according to another thread.

viewtopic.php?f=26&t=107503

We currently get 1hrs worth of breaks 40 mins & 20 mins (in an 8hr shift)

They are capitalising on the CWU taking an extended xmas break until next mon to get all this rolled out!
No doubt there will be lots more EA coming this week
Chitchat
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Re: No sick pay without a doctor's note

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Royal mail know that you won't be able to get a doctor's note for the 1st week. Hence why they are doing it.
SpacePhoenix
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Re: No sick pay without a doctor's note

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Any managers try it, just give the doctor contact details for the manager and let the manager explain why a sick note is needed on day 1
pieoftheday
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Re: No sick pay without a doctor's note

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Will RM want to put this unpaid sick leave towards a stage?
chickenwittle
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Re: No sick pay without a doctor's note

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More Royal Mail scare tactics, 7 day self cert whether they like it or not , my gp will say the same .
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Re: No sick pay without a doctor's note

Post by thefox »

Chitchat wrote:
05 Jan 2023, 09:55
Royal mail know that you won't be able to get a doctor's note for the 1st week. Hence why they are doing it.
How would a doctor know that its your first week but,could you not just say i self cert last week even though you didn't and get it from your first day sick.
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Re: No sick pay without a doctor's note

Post by thefox »

2chorizon wrote:
05 Jan 2023, 09:14
worktotime wrote:
05 Jan 2023, 09:09
and are the CWU going to at least comment on this and what we can do ? , and yet another unagreed action from thompson and his cronies :evil/mad
20min relaxation break being removed from all MC’s from February too according to another thread.

viewtopic.php?f=26&t=107503

We currently get 1hrs worth of breaks 40 mins & 20 mins (in an 8hr shift)

They are capitalising on the CWU taking an extended xmas break until next mon to get all this rolled out!
No doubt there will be lots more EA coming this week
Relaxation break🤔 never heard of that before could be doing with some of that on delivery.