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No strikes until March

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cornstar18
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Re: No strikes until March

Post by cornstar18 »

All those people mopping up overtime to cover their losses will or should vote no to the ballot if theyve any sense. There won't be another strike
2chorizon
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Re: No strikes until March

Post by 2chorizon »

post6675 wrote:
02 Jan 2023, 16:23
2chorizon wrote:
02 Jan 2023, 15:59
hans solo wrote:
02 Jan 2023, 15:55
A period of executive action more like
We should have had ballot running consecutively with action
Always on the back foot it seems
Aside from a couple of posts on twitter (probably from some PR intern working from home) the CWU seem to have packed up for a long xmas break.
The cwu twitter utterly embarrasses members and posties. Responding childishly to low effort trolls etc. Loosk childish. And there recent post of graffiti on a postbox saying 'up the cwu' is the icing
Jesus! They're at it again wtf :shock:
redlen
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Re: No strikes until March

Post by redlen »

The quality of media that originates from CWU coms has been a bit of a let down concentrating more on the amount of click likes received and flag waving than any real substance with the dispute.

That twitter link from CWU coms is a prime example with absolutely no links to Royal Mail provided. It could have originated at any commercial premises. Bovine Excrement.
grchpo
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Re: No strikes until March

Post by grchpo »

2chorizon wrote:
02 Jan 2023, 17:12
Surreypostie wrote:
02 Jan 2023, 16:07
2chorizon wrote:
02 Jan 2023, 15:51
Ah well, i still cannot see them calling any more strike dates on the change ballot, "A period of calm" and all that guff.

At the very least then if they serve notice tomorrow (tues 3rd jan) it would be 18th jan as next strike date.

People would have just forgotten about the whole thing by then.

The new ballot is unlikely to yeild the massive majority yes vote again.
Why would you want any more strikes at present? Think about it, we strike and there is a backlog.

The union are required by law to reballot us.

The union send out the papers and they get caught up in the backlog and are not delivered, if and when they are delivered we have to return them.

Royal Mail will not prioritise them,

If we fail to meet the threshold, the amount of votes that have to be cast and the percentage needed to take action all strikes are off.

Union are being sensible in my opinion.

We have walks with between 30 and 40 boxes of mail under the frames, you really want to be striking now when we have to ballot again? Go for it.
That is a good point RE the ballot papers, bit of a flakey excuse tho :crazy:

I like the time off, have got used to getting random days off :Very Happy
Very good reason for striking......I like time off. Go part time or go get another job & let the rest of us get back to work. So f**king idle.
2chorizon
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Re: No strikes until March

Post by 2chorizon »

grchpo wrote:
02 Jan 2023, 19:50
2chorizon wrote:
02 Jan 2023, 17:12
Surreypostie wrote:
02 Jan 2023, 16:07
2chorizon wrote:
02 Jan 2023, 15:51
Ah well, i still cannot see them calling any more strike dates on the change ballot, "A period of calm" and all that guff.

At the very least then if they serve notice tomorrow (tues 3rd jan) it would be 18th jan as next strike date.

People would have just forgotten about the whole thing by then.

The new ballot is unlikely to yeild the massive majority yes vote again.
Why would you want any more strikes at present? Think about it, we strike and there is a backlog.

The union are required by law to reballot us.

The union send out the papers and they get caught up in the backlog and are not delivered, if and when they are delivered we have to return them.

Royal Mail will not prioritise them,

If we fail to meet the threshold, the amount of votes that have to be cast and the percentage needed to take action all strikes are off.

Union are being sensible in my opinion.

We have walks with between 30 and 40 boxes of mail under the frames, you really want to be striking now when we have to ballot again? Go for it.
That is a good point RE the ballot papers, bit of a flakey excuse tho :crazy:

I like the time off, have got used to getting random days off :Very Happy
Very good reason for striking......I like time off. Go part time or go get another job & let the rest of us get back to work. So f**king idle.
Psssst……i’am part time :dance
Binsey
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Re: No strikes until March

Post by Binsey »

You will soon be out of a job and you can have as much time off as you like.

As I suspect quite a few of us will.
2chorizon
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Re: No strikes until March

Post by 2chorizon »

Let's get it on baby. :nana
chickenwittle
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Re: No strikes until March

Post by chickenwittle »

New year , same old posters talking the same old crap.
POSTPERSON50
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Re: No strikes until March

Post by POSTPERSON50 »

Time weakens our position. Time weakens our resolve. Time weakens our strength.

Call as many random strike days as you want, it has become old hat and nothing has been remotely solved by it.

You can hold up as many cwu banners as you want but people are beyond weary with this bollocks.

To all those people in October who said to me "we can't afford to go out on strike for a week" ..check your bank balance now, you've probably lost four times as much over the piece, and it's had no effect.
SpacePhoenix
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Re: No strikes until March

Post by SpacePhoenix »

POSTPERSON50 wrote:
03 Jan 2023, 11:05
Time weakens our position. Time weakens our resolve. Time weakens our strength.

Call as many random strike days as you want, it has become old hat and nothing has been remotely solved by it.

You can hold up as many cwu banners as you want but people are beyond weary with this bollocks.

To all those people in October who said to me "we can't afford to go out on strike for a week" ..check your bank balance now, you've probably lost four times as much over the piece, and it's had no effect.
When it comes to the re-ballot, assuming that RM don't get it thrown out in court for any reason, if either the turnout is crap or the % above 51% is crap then that'll effectively give RM the green light to force through even more changes
Hyrrokkin
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Re: No strikes until March

Post by Hyrrokkin »

chickenwittle wrote:
03 Jan 2023, 07:54
New year , same old posters talking the same old crap.
Come on you are NOT that bad !!!!!
walthmstowman
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Re: No strikes until March

Post by walthmstowman »

SpacePhoenix wrote:
03 Jan 2023, 11:32
POSTPERSON50 wrote:
03 Jan 2023, 11:05
Time weakens our position. Time weakens our resolve. Time weakens our strength.

Call as many random strike days as you want, it has become old hat and nothing has been remotely solved by it.

You can hold up as many cwu banners as you want but people are beyond weary with this bollocks.

To all those people in October who said to me "we can't afford to go out on strike for a week" ..check your bank balance now, you've probably lost four times as much over the piece, and it's had no effect.
When it comes to the re-ballot, assuming that RM don't get it thrown out in court for any reason, if either the turnout is crap or the % above 51% is crap then that'll effectively give RM the green light to force through even more changes
How strong is our resolve ? Should we give up then and just accept everything that's coming .? It all depends on the membership with our next ballot. if it turns out to be as crap as you fear then we know what's coming .
SpacePhoenix
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Re: No strikes until March

Post by SpacePhoenix »

walthmstowman wrote:
04 Jan 2023, 14:24
SpacePhoenix wrote:
03 Jan 2023, 11:32
POSTPERSON50 wrote:
03 Jan 2023, 11:05
Time weakens our position. Time weakens our resolve. Time weakens our strength.

Call as many random strike days as you want, it has become old hat and nothing has been remotely solved by it.

You can hold up as many cwu banners as you want but people are beyond weary with this bollocks.

To all those people in October who said to me "we can't afford to go out on strike for a week" ..check your bank balance now, you've probably lost four times as much over the piece, and it's had no effect.
When it comes to the re-ballot, assuming that RM don't get it thrown out in court for any reason, if either the turnout is crap or the % above 51% is crap then that'll effectively give RM the green light to force through even more changes
How strong is our resolve ? Should we give up then and just accept everything that's coming .? It all depends on the membership with our next ballot. if it turns out to be as crap as you fear then we know what's coming .
I think it'll depend on what EA and changes RM force through between now and when the re-ballot takes place as to how people vote
Seymour Buts
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Re: No strikes until March

Post by Seymour Buts »

Can't help but feel we're on a road to nowhere. We've got Rhyde (or whatever they're called) drivers doing oversized, and the lats. They're advertising new jobs on the lower rate we're striking against. So what exactly is gonna be achieved with further strikes? I don't wanna give up on principle, but can't help but feel further strikes is just saving them money on the days we're off whilst the Ryde drivers just mop up the work.
walthmstowman
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Re: No strikes until March

Post by walthmstowman »

SpacePhoenix wrote:
04 Jan 2023, 16:21
walthmstowman wrote:
04 Jan 2023, 14:24
SpacePhoenix wrote:
03 Jan 2023, 11:32
POSTPERSON50 wrote:
03 Jan 2023, 11:05
Time weakens our position. Time weakens our resolve. Time weakens our strength.

Call as many random strike days as you want, it has become old hat and nothing has been remotely solved by it.

You can hold up as many cwu banners as you want but people are beyond weary with this bollocks.

To all those people in October who said to me "we can't afford to go out on strike for a week" ..check your bank balance now, you've probably lost four times as much over the piece, and it's had no effect.
When it comes to the re-ballot, assuming that RM don't get it thrown out in court for any reason, if either the turnout is crap or the % above 51% is crap then that'll effectively give RM the green light to force through even more changes
How strong is our resolve ? Should we give up then and just accept everything that's coming .? It all depends on the membership with our next ballot. if it turns out to be as crap as you fear then we know what's coming .
I think it'll depend on what EA and changes RM force through between now and when the re-ballot takes place as to how people vote
Well in my friends MC collection drivers have already been told they will be losing their driving allowance this month plus their clusterfuck of a resign is already on the wall waiting for people to choose their new duties .. Apparently they are hopping mad and want the strikes to start up again immediately . IMO, the ballot is going to be another huge YES.