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postman_jack
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Re: Bye bye Xmas

Post by postman_jack »

Reps are no longer engage with management due to the IA.
walthmstowman
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Re: Bye bye Xmas

Post by walthmstowman »

Dorset Plodder wrote:
20 Dec 2022, 00:01
postman_jack wrote:
19 Dec 2022, 19:37

RM wanted the ability to run the offices without the CWU and its agreement, well they have that in my office and it’s worse I’ve ever seen it in my 23 years service.
Is that because you have no Rep, or just because the CWU have withdrawn from Cooperation & Negotiation in the workplace? Our Christmas Plan was definately a new level of Incompetent Clusterfuck this year, and a lot of that was because of no Unit Rep input. :cuppa
Our new revision without union input has got more holes in it than Swiss cheese .We can't wait for it to start because its going to be one clusterfuck.
pieoftheday
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Re: Bye bye Xmas

Post by pieoftheday »

walthmstowman wrote:
29 Dec 2022, 13:00
Dorset Plodder wrote:
20 Dec 2022, 00:01
postman_jack wrote:
19 Dec 2022, 19:37

RM wanted the ability to run the offices without the CWU and its agreement, well they have that in my office and it’s worse I’ve ever seen it in my 23 years service.
Is that because you have no Rep, or just because the CWU have withdrawn from Cooperation & Negotiation in the workplace? Our Christmas Plan was definately a new level of Incompetent Clusterfuck this year, and a lot of that was because of no Unit Rep input. :cuppa
Our new revision without union input has got more holes in it than Swiss cheese .We can't wait for it to start because its going to be one clusterfuck.
What an odd company RM is, many DOs had stupid revisions over a year ago and had to return to what they'd got rid of and yet they're doing it again :arrrghhh
parforthewalk
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Re: Bye bye Xmas

Post by parforthewalk »

pieoftheday wrote:
29 Dec 2022, 14:23
walthmstowman wrote:
29 Dec 2022, 13:00
Dorset Plodder wrote:
20 Dec 2022, 00:01
postman_jack wrote:
19 Dec 2022, 19:37

RM wanted the ability to run the offices without the CWU and its agreement, well they have that in my office and it’s worse I’ve ever seen it in my 23 years service.
Is that because you have no Rep, or just because the CWU have withdrawn from Cooperation & Negotiation in the workplace? Our Christmas Plan was definately a new level of Incompetent Clusterfuck this year, and a lot of that was because of no Unit Rep input. :cuppa
Our new revision without union input has got more holes in it than Swiss cheese .We can't wait for it to start because its going to be one clusterfuck.
What an odd company RM is, many DOs had stupid revisions over a year ago and had to return to what they'd got rid of and yet they're doing it again :arrrghhh
That's because we are lions led by fxckwit donkeys :d'oh! :d'oh!
norris9
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Re: Bye bye Xmas

Post by norris9 »

pieoftheday wrote:
29 Dec 2022, 14:23
What an odd company RM is, many DOs had stupid revisions over a year ago and had to return to what they'd got rid of and yet they're doing it again :arrrghhh
It's not even that hard to do a revision that would actually help a office improve efficiency....it's so blooming easy, yet Royal Mail make it so complicated, it's laughable, it's embarrassingly bad management....

They actually employ 'revision gurus' who come to your office with a laptop and mapping software when WE the posties do the jobs on a daily basis and know ourselves what can be improved....

If a jobs 10 minutes too big and one near buy is 10 minutes too short - you simply move 10 minutes of work. Yeah it won't be that simple in certain situations, but it wouldn't take much to even things out.

Why are they wasting money on revision experts who have never done your walk, don't know the area and just go on what some useless, time wasting software tells them.

It's the most illogical system.
pieoftheday
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Re: Bye bye Xmas

Post by pieoftheday »

norris9 wrote:
29 Dec 2022, 15:03
pieoftheday wrote:
29 Dec 2022, 14:23
What an odd company RM is, many DOs had stupid revisions over a year ago and had to return to what they'd got rid of and yet they're doing it again :arrrghhh
It's not even that hard to do a revision that would actually help a office improve efficiency....it's so blooming easy, yet Royal Mail make it so complicated, it's laughable, it's embarrassingly bad management....

They actually employ 'revision gurus' who come to your office with a laptop and mapping software when WE the posties do the jobs on a daily basis and know ourselves what can be improved....

If a jobs 10 minutes too big and one near buy is 10 minutes too short - you simply move 10 minutes of work. Yeah it won't be that simple in certain situations, but it wouldn't take much to even things out.

Why are they wasting money on revision experts who have never done your walk, don't know the area and just go on what some useless, time wasting software tells them.

It's the most illogical system.
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Sbutts8182
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Re: Bye bye Xmas

Post by Sbutts8182 »

If 5pm last letter comes in they’ll have to take calls off my duty, never mind putting some on. In winter I’ll be bringing back 2 loops min, never mind Christmas.
Sbutts8182
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Re: Bye bye Xmas

Post by Sbutts8182 »

If 5pm last letter comes in they’ll have to take calls off my duty, never mind putting some on. In winter I’ll be bringing back 2 loops min, never mind Christmas.
postieblueshirt
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Re: Bye bye Xmas

Post by postieblueshirt »

If 5pm last letter comes in they better ban red envelope Christmas cards there to hard to read at the best of times if it's in the dark forget it.
mags999
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Re: Bye bye Xmas

Post by mags999 »

I'm struggling at 3 o'clock and thats with normal letters :cry