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3 day week - is this the future?

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3 day week - is this the future?

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Unfortunately yes it’s inevitable as we’ve seen it’s only tracked there interested in
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Yes, eventually.
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Our delivery routes are less than 3 day delivery just now
Not including strike days
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France is to move to three-days-a-week letter deliveries from the start of next year as ministers in Britain resist pleas from Royal Mail to axe Saturday postal rounds.

Letters will also be delivered within three days in a major shake-up that French bosses say will reduce La Poste's carbon footprint.

Next-day deliveries will only be available if customers email the text to La Poste, which will then print out the letter at a local branch before passing it to a postal worker.

Alongside Germany, the UK is now an outlier in Europe by sticking to a six-day-a-week letters service. Germany’s plans to reduce to a five-day-a-week service under Angela Merkel have stalled under successor Olaf Scholz.

Royal Mail is facing resistance from ministers to drop down to a five-days-a-week letters service. Saturday deliveries are a legal obligation on the FTSE 250 company, meaning any changes must be agreed by Parliament.

But Grant Shapps, the Business Secretary, is refusing to agree to the changes, leading to a stand-off with Royal Mail chairman Keith Williams.


Mr Williams, the former chief executive of British Airways, has said first-class stamps will have to rise “considerably” to pay for Royal Mail deliveries on Saturday.

He said: “The cost to us is driven in part by [the fact that the] volume of letters has declined. You're delivering the same number of letters over six days when you could be doing it over five. So that is forcing up stamp prices.”

Under the equivalent to the UK’s “universal service obligation” – regulations that bind Royal Mail to delivering six-days-a-week – other countries have changed the law to significantly reduce postal rounds for letters.

Italy has moved to an every other day service in rural areas, Norway runs two rounds a week and Denmark only delivers standard class letters once a week.

Royal Mail has estimated it could save between £125m and £225m by scrapping Saturday letter deliveries and says consumers’ needs would not be affected.
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Re: 3 day week - is this the future?

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Acca Dacca wrote:
26 Dec 2022, 15:50

Royal Mail has estimated it could save between £125m and £225m by scrapping Saturday letter deliveries and says consumers’ needs would not be affected.
More importantly we'd be able to give bigger dividends to those struggling shareholders, and ST and his cronies would be inline for some more bonuses :cuppa
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My guess is that staff will be split into those who deliver letters only and those who deliver parcels only (probably all require vans). The ones doing letters only will probably be working 12hr days
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SpacePhoenix wrote:
26 Dec 2022, 18:37
My guess is that staff will be split into those who deliver letters only and those who deliver parcels only (probably all require vans). The ones doing letters only will probably be working 12hr days
I am in for only parcel duty don't mind to work later or some Sundays
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SpacePhoenix wrote:
26 Dec 2022, 18:37
My guess is that staff will be split into those who deliver letters only and those who deliver parcels only (probably all require vans). The ones doing letters only will probably be working 12hr days
No they won’t. No one could reasonably be expected to do regular 9 hour deliveries. If it ever went to a 3 day USO much more likely that each OPG would cover 2 walks alternating between them each day.
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Zicomurphy wrote:
26 Dec 2022, 19:35
SpacePhoenix wrote:
26 Dec 2022, 18:37
My guess is that staff will be split into those who deliver letters only and those who deliver parcels only (probably all require vans). The ones doing letters only will probably be working 12hr days
No they won’t. No one could reasonably be expected to do regular 9 hour deliveries. If it ever went to a 3 day USO much more likely that each OPG would cover 2 walks alternating between them each day.
Wouldn't that mean we'd need half the posties we presently employ?
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SpacePhoenix wrote:
26 Dec 2022, 18:37
My guess is that staff will be split into those who deliver letters only and those who deliver parcels only (probably all require vans). The ones doing letters only will probably be working 12hr days
Now I know why people say on here you say a lot about Delivery whilst not having a clue about it

FFS :chuckle
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Re: 3 day week - is this the future?

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Acca Dacca wrote:
26 Dec 2022, 23:38
SpacePhoenix wrote:
26 Dec 2022, 18:37
My guess is that staff will be split into those who deliver letters only and those who deliver parcels only (probably all require vans). The ones doing letters only will probably be working 12hr days
Now I know why people say on here you say a lot about Delivery whilst not having a clue about it

FFS :chuckle
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TopperGas wrote:
26 Dec 2022, 22:47
Zicomurphy wrote:
26 Dec 2022, 19:35
SpacePhoenix wrote:
26 Dec 2022, 18:37
My guess is that staff will be split into those who deliver letters only and those who deliver parcels only (probably all require vans). The ones doing letters only will probably be working 12hr days
No they won’t. No one could reasonably be expected to do regular 9 hour deliveries. If it ever went to a 3 day USO much more likely that each OPG would cover 2 walks alternating between them each day.
Wouldn't that mean we'd need half the posties we presently employ?
It’s fairly obvious that the introduction of a 3 day USO would lead to either a large number of job losses or a large number of full time jobs being made part time depending on the form it would take.

If every address was to get a delivery on the same three days of the week you would have a choice between keeping delivery spans the same , making the job part time and employing the same number of people or having something like a 9 hour delivery span to keep full time jobs but employing a lot less people.

The only way I can see to keep full time jobs and have anywhere near a reasonable delivery span is to deliver two different walks on alternate days. This is a way of working a lot of us will already be familiar with over the last couple of years where staff shortages often leave one person covering two van share duties on their own and being told to leave one duty one day and the other duty the next day.
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Re: 3 day week - is this the future?

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Zicomurphy wrote:
27 Dec 2022, 01:40
The only way I can see to keep full time jobs and have anywhere near a reasonable delivery span is to deliver two different walks on alternate days. This is a way of working a lot of us will already be familiar with over the last couple of years where staff shortages often leave one person covering two van share duties on their own and being told to leave one duty one day and the other duty the next day.
Will that really save jobs in DOs?
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Re: 3 day week - is this the future?

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:Applause
Acca Dacca wrote:
26 Dec 2022, 23:38
SpacePhoenix wrote:
26 Dec 2022, 18:37
My guess is that staff will be split into those who deliver letters only and those who deliver parcels only (probably all require vans). The ones doing letters only will probably be working 12hr days
Now I know why people say on here you say a lot about Delivery whilst not having a clue about it

FFS :chuckle
:Applause :Applause :Applause