France to deliver letters just three days a week - while Royal Mail pleads to end six-day service

[pieoftheday]

Royal Mail have done nothing but cut costs the last 20 years, while running down the service to make those cuts.
Scrapping the Saturday delivery will make not a blind bit of difference, as a year on from doing it, Thompson, or whatever other cretin is in his place, will be back scrounging for more cuts, depleting the service further.

Reality is there is not enough letters being sent and if a country like France which is similar to uk have gone to 3 days a week the writing is on the wall for the uk.if they offer tracked 7 days a week then there will still be a service available if needed. I don’t want this to happen but we have to be realistic that it’s inevitable I’m afraid

Yes there are enough letters being sent, jeez what office do you deliver from. Obviously reducing the delivery days will reduce the amount of mail business will want to send,a self fulfilling prophecy, driving business down. Copying someone else's business plan dosnt mean it's good. Service lost, jobs lost, tax lost, spending lost, the way of asset stripping and destroying infrastructure is utterly disgusting

[enskied]

Facts and figures.

Parcels are believe it or not in decline, we are delivering less than two years ago.

Mail has increased over the last two years and strangely D2D not included in that, have increased too.

[matthew68]

Royal Mail have done nothing but cut costs the last 20 years, while running down the service to make those cuts.
Scrapping the Saturday delivery will make not a blind bit of difference, as a year on from doing it, Thompson, or whatever other cretin is in his place, will be back scrounging for more cuts, depleting the service further.

Reality is there is not enough letters being sent and if a country like France which is similar to uk have gone to 3 days a week the writing is on the wall for the uk.if they offer tracked 7 days a week then there will still be a service available if needed. I don’t want this to happen but we have to be realistic that it’s inevitable I’m afraid

Yes there are enough letters being sent, jeez what office do you deliver from. Obviously reducing the delivery days will reduce the amount of mail business will want to send,a self fulfilling prophecy, driving business down. Copying someone else's business plan dosnt mean it's good. Service lost, jobs lost, tax lost, spending lost, the way of asset stripping and destroying infrastructure is utterly disgusting

Oh come on it’s nowhere near what it was and I deliver to a mainly affluent area, I’m not saying I agree but are people really bothered, of course it’s all about saving money but every postal company in the world is making major cutbacks we can’t expect it not to change here

[matthew68]

Oh so we have to pay premium or else now.

Court summons, mortgage and deeds, police and medical all have to pay premium or do without. First class can rot.

We only talking Saturday mail here . A lot of panic all of a sudden, they’ve been leaving 3 or 4 days worth everywhere by the looks of it and didn’t seem to care about mail. If enough want voluntary redundancy than why should it matter anyway

[enskied]

So they are "cut backs" not improvements then.

[pieoftheday]

Royal Mail have done nothing but cut costs the last 20 years, while running down the service to make those cuts.
Scrapping the Saturday delivery will make not a blind bit of difference, as a year on from doing it, Thompson, or whatever other cretin is in his place, will be back scrounging for more cuts, depleting the service further.

Reality is there is not enough letters being sent and if a country like France which is similar to uk have gone to 3 days a week the writing is on the wall for the uk.if they offer tracked 7 days a week then there will still be a service available if needed. I don’t want this to happen but we have to be realistic that it’s inevitable I’m afraid

Yes there are enough letters being sent, jeez what office do you deliver from. Obviously reducing the delivery days will reduce the amount of mail business will want to send,a self fulfilling prophecy, driving business down. Copying someone else's business plan dosnt mean it's good. Service lost, jobs lost, tax lost, spending lost, the way of asset stripping and destroying infrastructure is utterly disgusting

Oh come on it’s nowhere near what it was and I deliver to a mainly affluent area, I’m not saying I agree but are people really bothered, of course it’s all about saving money but every postal company in the world is making major cutbacks we can’t expect it not to change here

Forcing decline is the business model, and I've seen it over 36 years, mail volumes over the same area are not declining, if you say they are its peculiar to your area or you are not a postman of any years or a complete wosname

[matthew68]

Royal Mail have done nothing but cut costs the last 20 years, while running down the service to make those cuts.
Scrapping the Saturday delivery will make not a blind bit of difference, as a year on from doing it, Thompson, or whatever other cretin is in his place, will be back scrounging for more cuts, depleting the service further.

Reality is there is not enough letters being sent and if a country like France which is similar to uk have gone to 3 days a week the writing is on the wall for the uk.if they offer tracked 7 days a week then there will still be a service available if needed. I don’t want this to happen but we have to be realistic that it’s inevitable I’m afraid

Yes there are enough letters being sent, jeez what office do you deliver from. Obviously reducing the delivery days will reduce the amount of mail business will want to send,a self fulfilling prophecy, driving business down. Copying someone else's business plan dosnt mean it's good. Service lost, jobs lost, tax lost, spending lost, the way of asset stripping and destroying infrastructure is utterly disgusting

Oh come on it’s nowhere near what it was and I deliver to a mainly affluent area, I’m not saying I agree but are people really bothered, of course it’s all about saving money but every postal company in the world is making major cutbacks we can’t expect it not to change here

Forcing decline is the business model, and I've seen it over 36 years, mail volumes over the same area are not declining, if you say they are its peculiar to your area or you are not a postman of any years or a complete wosname

I don’t know what a wosname is exactly but you need to stop burying your head in the sand I’ve been almost 20 years and it’s nothing like it used to be just face facts, I don’t like major changes either I’m just pointing out facts, you can’t simply say it’s not declining when clearly it is. You have most things online now plus social media, that’s a huge amount of letters lost

[pieoftheday]

It isnt declining it just isnt, say it is again, go on, it isnt. It will with the future business model but at mo it is not

[SpacePhoenix]

It isnt declining it just isnt, say it is again, go on, it isnt. It will with the future business model but at mo it is not

Letters are most certainly declining. On the sequencing, just a few years ago about 20 boxes would be considered a big batch, now it's more like 14-16. Also the CSS machines are finished earlier than they used to be. At one time they'd often need break cover, now it's not unusual to get days when they're finished an hour before the operators go to break. Manual letters only need 2-3 people on them for most of the night, it's a similar situation for flats. The amount of boxes that we have to seg at the start of the shift has dropped off a lot (there's more chance of seeing a whole squadron of flying pigs than late shift ever seg single box like they're supposed to).

SDs dropped off massively after the former foreign specials started going though the system as Tracked, even Tracked has dropped off a bit since shops returned to normal after all the Covid restrictions

[Acca Dacca]

It isnt declining it just isnt, say it is again, go on, it isnt. It will with the future business model but at mo it is not

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SDs dropped off massively after the former foreign specials started going though the system as Tracked

Thats not dropping off really though is it? The items are still in the system and still need processed and delivered.

[SpacePhoenix]

It isnt declining it just isnt, say it is again, go on, it isnt. It will with the future business model but at mo it is not

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SDs dropped off massively after the former foreign specials started going though the system as Tracked

Thats not dropping off really though is it? The items are still in the system and still need processed and delivered.

Even with the ex foreign specials going as Tracked, Tracked is still dropping off

[clashcityrocker]

https://www.lapostegroupe.com/en/news/l ... -footprint

As of 1 January 2023, customers will be able to choose between 3 types of letters. The distribution of letters and newspapers/magazines, as well as parcel deliveries and local services will continue to operate 6 days a week.

It is fake news.

[Halfhappy]

Royal Mail have done nothing but cut costs the last 20 years, while running down the service to make those cuts.
Scrapping the Saturday delivery will make not a blind bit of difference, as a year on from doing it, Thompson, or whatever other cretin is in his place, will be back scrounging for more cuts, depleting the service further.

Reality is there is not enough letters being sent and if a country like France which is similar to uk have gone to 3 days a week the writing is on the wall for the uk.if they offer tracked 7 days a week then there will still be a service available if needed. I don’t want this to happen but we have to be realistic that it’s inevitable I’m afraid

No the reality is nothing to do with letter volumes, it is about staffing overheads and cutting every corner.
As said before Royal Mail can not deliver the mail with a six day service. So it can not deliver that same mail in five days.
Mail is a red herring, this is all about reducing staff and standards.

100% correct.