next ballot!

[pieoftheday]

No it's not anywhere near as good as at was and comparing with any other job is stupid.

[FilthyBloke]

It's either you support the union or you support Thompson and who the heck is going to support the latter.

I haven't witnessed people struggling financially at my office. Posties keep getting offered to come in early or stay out or work their day off and most reject the offer.

The overtime is there to make up for the strike days but people don't even want it.

How about the number one priority is supporting your family first?

Common sense thinking? Surprised you haven't been flamed to death for posting something like that.

Hardly common sense when it means undermining efforts to stop compulsory redundancies, pay cuts, cuts to terms and job security. How's the saying go again... Give a man a the chance to cross a picket line, while his colleagues make the sacrifice for him, and he'll support his family for a day. Give a man a job security, good pay and an all round square deal and he'll feed his family for life. Is that it?

Lol. If being a postman was the only job I could apply for I would agree with you. But even with the changes it will still be better than working at Asda or Aldi or yodel or evri.

It may not be as good as it was but is the job now as good as it was 5, 10, 15 years ago?

Even the new sick pay changes RM want are still better than most companies get. Some get nowt for being off sick.

What it does show is how easy postman have had it for too long.

Yea, cos that's the only changes they want, ain't it. Just because there are employees with worse terms and conditions than a postie, and I don't know if that's true about Asda, etc... I don't work for them, regardless, that's no justification to accept that we join them. We should be progressing, not going backwards. Those people working in worse conditions should be moving towards ours, not the other way round. Seriously, what a way think.

It’s the terms and conditions that many, many postmen have abused for so long.
People not doing van checks. Taking the mick with sick leave. Ghosting. Leaving early. They are the ones who got the big bosses head turned.
They can now see when people ghost or finish early (and still demanded a 10% pay deal!). They know that RM pays more in sack pay than pretty much any other company in uk.
The terms have been disrespected for too long.

[walthmstowman]

Will the union get the same support from its members in the next ballot? with the cost of living crisis deepning and these strikes taking its toll on
our wages be interesting to see if members will still vote to strike, what could sway it ,could be down to work to time, no days off, union might score an own goal with that, a lot of people are finding it hard enough to strike and relying on overtime and days off, but if they add work to time and no days off they might not get the backing from its members especially ones who have mortgages to pay.

I've been told the drivers at Mount Pleasant are losing their driving allowance from next month and they are hoping mad about it . I'd say they will be voting YES again .

[Binsey]

This strike has turned into total Clown World.


I have just been in the local with the dog having a pre Christmas IPA when a women come over to pat the dog.
Usual small talk.
She then said “ Where do you work?.
Me “I work at Royal Mail on strike today.”
She then said “ My Daughter is on the agency 12 hour days she’s still there now. They have even got voucher!”
Me to dog “ We’re going to the bar I need a double whiskey.”

We’re being replaced and no amount of strike action is stopping it,

The bleakest Christmas yet in my now 37 year.

Total Clown World.

[postieblueshirt]

It's either you support the union or you support Thompson and who the heck is going to support the latter.

I haven't witnessed people struggling financially at my office. Posties keep getting offered to come in early or stay out or work their day off and most reject the offer.

The overtime is there to make up for the strike days but people don't even want it.

How about the number one priority is supporting your family first?

Common sense thinking? Surprised you haven't been flamed to death for posting something like that.

Hardly common sense when it means undermining efforts to stop compulsory redundancies, pay cuts, cuts to terms and job security. How's the saying go again... Give a man a the chance to cross a picket line, while his colleagues make the sacrifice for him, and he'll support his family for a day. Give a man a job security, good pay and an all round square deal and he'll feed his family for life. Is that it?

Lol. If being a postman was the only job I could apply for I would agree with you. But even with the changes it will still be better than working at Asda or Aldi or yodel or evri.

It may not be as good as it was but is the job now as good as it was 5, 10, 15 years ago?

Even the new sick pay changes RM want are still better than most companies get. Some get nowt for being off sick.

What it does show is how easy postman have had it for too long.

Yea, cos that's the only changes they want, ain't it. Just because there are employees with worse terms and conditions than a postie, and I don't know if that's true about Asda, etc... I don't work for them, regardless, that's no justification to accept that we join them. We should be progressing, not going backwards. Those people working in worse conditions should be moving towards ours, not the other way round. Seriously, what a way think.

It’s the terms and conditions that many, many postmen have abused for so long.
People not doing van checks. Taking the mick with sick leave. Ghosting. Leaving early. They are the ones who got the big bosses head turned.
They can now see when people ghost or finish early (and still demanded a 10% pay deal!). They know that RM pays more in sack pay than pretty much any other company in uk.
The terms have been disrespected for too long.

not completely correct ghosting is the fault of your manager hes the one who says il give you x amount of hours for doing something he knows takes less time its easier for him that way.

[walthmstowman]

This strike has turned into total Clown World.


I have just been in the local with the dog having a pre Christmas IPA when a women come over to pat the dog.
Usual small talk.
She then said “ Where do you work?.
Me “I work at Royal Mail on strike today.”
She then said “ My Daughter is on the agency 12 hour days she’s still there now. They have even got voucher!”
Me to dog “ We’re going to the bar I need a double whiskey.”

We’re being replaced and no amount of strike action is stopping it,

The bleakest Christmas yet in my now 37 year.

Total Clown World.

Well then they will need to hire 115,000 agency staff to replace us . However I know what you mean .

[Binsey]

Yes indeed

But have you seen MC/Network/VOC/ Distribution recently it’s a sea of Yellow Vests.
They now have there teeth into D/Os.

No gripe with anybody trying to earn a living.

Standards have collapsed in every part of RM.

What can the Union realistically do???

The Culture is fundamentally rotten and Toxic which starts at the top.

[FilthyBloke]

It's either you support the union or you support Thompson and who the heck is going to support the latter.

I haven't witnessed people struggling financially at my office. Posties keep getting offered to come in early or stay out or work their day off and most reject the offer.

The overtime is there to make up for the strike days but people don't even want it.

How about the number one priority is supporting your family first?

Common sense thinking? Surprised you haven't been flamed to death for posting something like that.

Hardly common sense when it means undermining efforts to stop compulsory redundancies, pay cuts, cuts to terms and job security. How's the saying go again... Give a man a the chance to cross a picket line, while his colleagues make the sacrifice for him, and he'll support his family for a day. Give a man a job security, good pay and an all round square deal and he'll feed his family for life. Is that it?

Lol. If being a postman was the only job I could apply for I would agree with you. But even with the changes it will still be better than working at Asda or Aldi or yodel or evri.

It may not be as good as it was but is the job now as good as it was 5, 10, 15 years ago?

Even the new sick pay changes RM want are still better than most companies get. Some get nowt for being off sick.

What it does show is how easy postman have had it for too long.

Yea, cos that's the only changes they want, ain't it. Just because there are employees with worse terms and conditions than a postie, and I don't know if that's true about Asda, etc... I don't work for them, regardless, that's no justification to accept that we join them. We should be progressing, not going backwards. Those people working in worse conditions should be moving towards ours, not the other way round. Seriously, what a way think.

It’s the terms and conditions that many, many postmen have abused for so long.
People not doing van checks. Taking the mick with sick leave. Ghosting. Leaving early. They are the ones who got the big bosses head turned.
They can now see when people ghost or finish early (and still demanded a 10% pay deal!). They know that RM pays more in sack pay than pretty much any other company in uk.
The terms have been disrespected for too long.

not completely correct ghosting is the fault of your manager hes the one who says il give you x amount of hours for doing something he knows takes less time its easier for him that way.

Ghosting is a two way crime!!
The trap door to this company was 10 years ago. Once we had shareholders it was game over. We should have all stood outside on the picket against that. Once we went down that path it was always going to lead to this.

[postieblueshirt]

It's either you support the union or you support Thompson and who the heck is going to support the latter.

I haven't witnessed people struggling financially at my office. Posties keep getting offered to come in early or stay out or work their day off and most reject the offer.

The overtime is there to make up for the strike days but people don't even want it.

How about the number one priority is supporting your family first?

Common sense thinking? Surprised you haven't been flamed to death for posting something like that.

Hardly common sense when it means undermining efforts to stop compulsory redundancies, pay cuts, cuts to terms and job security. How's the saying go again... Give a man a the chance to cross a picket line, while his colleagues make the sacrifice for him, and he'll support his family for a day. Give a man a job security, good pay and an all round square deal and he'll feed his family for life. Is that it?

Lol. If being a postman was the only job I could apply for I would agree with you. But even with the changes it will still be better than working at Asda or Aldi or yodel or evri.

It may not be as good as it was but is the job now as good as it was 5, 10, 15 years ago?

Even the new sick pay changes RM want are still better than most companies get. Some get nowt for being off sick.

What it does show is how easy postman have had it for too long.

Yea, cos that's the only changes they want, ain't it. Just because there are employees with worse terms and conditions than a postie, and I don't know if that's true about Asda, etc... I don't work for them, regardless, that's no justification to accept that we join them. We should be progressing, not going backwards. Those people working in worse conditions should be moving towards ours, not the other way round. Seriously, what a way think.

It’s the terms and conditions that many, many postmen have abused for so long.
People not doing van checks. Taking the mick with sick leave. Ghosting. Leaving early. They are the ones who got the big bosses head turned.
They can now see when people ghost or finish early (and still demanded a 10% pay deal!). They know that RM pays more in sack pay than pretty much any other company in uk.
The terms have been disrespected for too long.

not completely correct ghosting is the fault of your manager hes the one who says il give you x amount of hours for doing something he knows takes less time its easier for him that way.

Ghosting is a two way crime!!
The trap door to this company was 10 years ago. Once we had shareholders it was game over. We should have all stood outside on the picket against that. Once we went down that path it was always going to lead to this.

maybe but would you have crossed that picket line to?

[Binsey]

Indeed 100%

We should of been on the barricades in 2013.

But they got round by appealing to peoples greed.

[FilthyBloke]

It's either you support the union or you support Thompson and who the heck is going to support the latter.

I haven't witnessed people struggling financially at my office. Posties keep getting offered to come in early or stay out or work their day off and most reject the offer.

The overtime is there to make up for the strike days but people don't even want it.

How about the number one priority is supporting your family first?

Common sense thinking? Surprised you haven't been flamed to death for posting something like that.

Hardly common sense when it means undermining efforts to stop compulsory redundancies, pay cuts, cuts to terms and job security. How's the saying go again... Give a man a the chance to cross a picket line, while his colleagues make the sacrifice for him, and he'll support his family for a day. Give a man a job security, good pay and an all round square deal and he'll feed his family for life. Is that it?

Lol. If being a postman was the only job I could apply for I would agree with you. But even with the changes it will still be better than working at Asda or Aldi or yodel or evri.

It may not be as good as it was but is the job now as good as it was 5, 10, 15 years ago?

Even the new sick pay changes RM want are still better than most companies get. Some get nowt for being off sick.

What it does show is how easy postman have had it for too long.

Yea, cos that's the only changes they want, ain't it. Just because there are employees with worse terms and conditions than a postie, and I don't know if that's true about Asda, etc... I don't work for them, regardless, that's no justification to accept that we join them. We should be progressing, not going backwards. Those people working in worse conditions should be moving towards ours, not the other way round. Seriously, what a way think.

It’s the terms and conditions that many, many postmen have abused for so long.
People not doing van checks. Taking the mick with sick leave. Ghosting. Leaving early. They are the ones who got the big bosses head turned.
They can now see when people ghost or finish early (and still demanded a 10% pay deal!). They know that RM pays more in sack pay than pretty much any other company in uk.
The terms have been disrespected for too long.

not completely correct ghosting is the fault of your manager hes the one who says il give you x amount of hours for doing something he knows takes less time its easier for him that way.

Ghosting is a two way crime!!
The trap door to this company was 10 years ago. Once we had shareholders it was game over. We should have all stood outside on the picket against that. Once we went down that path it was always going to lead to this.

maybe but would you have crossed that picket line to?

No:… different stage of my life back then but regardless of family, from a business point of view I knew that was a slippery slope.
Folk were delighted with their free shares and such but it was a disaster imo.

[FilthyBloke]

It's either you support the union or you support Thompson and who the heck is going to support the latter.

I haven't witnessed people struggling financially at my office. Posties keep getting offered to come in early or stay out or work their day off and most reject the offer.

The overtime is there to make up for the strike days but people don't even want it.

How about the number one priority is supporting your family first?

Common sense thinking? Surprised you haven't been flamed to death for posting something like that.

Hardly common sense when it means undermining efforts to stop compulsory redundancies, pay cuts, cuts to terms and job security. How's the saying go again... Give a man a the chance to cross a picket line, while his colleagues make the sacrifice for him, and he'll support his family for a day. Give a man a job security, good pay and an all round square deal and he'll feed his family for life. Is that it?

Lol. If being a postman was the only job I could apply for I would agree with you. But even with the changes it will still be better than working at Asda or Aldi or yodel or evri.

It may not be as good as it was but is the job now as good as it was 5, 10, 15 years ago?

Even the new sick pay changes RM want are still better than most companies get. Some get nowt for being off sick.

What it does show is how easy postman have had it for too long.

Yea, cos that's the only changes they want, ain't it. Just because there are employees with worse terms and conditions than a postie, and I don't know if that's true about Asda, etc... I don't work for them, regardless, that's no justification to accept that we join them. We should be progressing, not going backwards. Those people working in worse conditions should be moving towards ours, not the other way round. Seriously, what a way think.

It’s the terms and conditions that many, many postmen have abused for so long.
People not doing van checks. Taking the mick with sick leave. Ghosting. Leaving early. They are the ones who got the big bosses head turned.
They can now see when people ghost or finish early (and still demanded a 10% pay deal!). They know that RM pays more in sack pay than pretty much any other company in uk.
The terms have been disrespected for too long.

not completely correct ghosting is the fault of your manager hes the one who says il give you x amount of hours for doing something he knows takes less time its easier for him that way.

Ghosting is a two way crime!!
The trap door to this company was 10 years ago. Once we had shareholders it was game over. We should have all stood outside on the picket against that. Once we went down that path it was always going to lead to this.

maybe but would you have crossed that picket line to?

No:… different stage of my life back then but regardless of family, from a business point of view I knew that was a slippery slope.
Folk were delighted with their free shares and such but it was a disaster imo.

[Binsey]

The free shares were a killer to any opposition to privatisation among the staff.

It appealed to peoples greed.

[chickenwittle]

It's either you support the union or you support Thompson and who the heck is going to support the latter.

I haven't witnessed people struggling financially at my office. Posties keep getting offered to come in early or stay out or work their day off and most reject the offer.

The overtime is there to make up for the strike days but people don't even want it.

How about the number one priority is supporting your family first?

Common sense thinking? Surprised you haven't been flamed to death for posting something like that.

Hardly common sense when it means undermining efforts to stop compulsory redundancies, pay cuts, cuts to terms and job security. How's the saying go again... Give a man a the chance to cross a picket line, while his colleagues make the sacrifice for him, and he'll support his family for a day. Give a man a job security, good pay and an all round square deal and he'll feed his family for life. Is that it?

Lol. If being a postman was the only job I could apply for I would agree with you. But even with the changes it will still be better than working at Asda or Aldi or yodel or evri.

It may not be as good as it was but is the job now as good as it was 5, 10, 15 years ago?

Even the new sick pay changes RM want are still better than most companies get. Some get nowt for being off sick.

What it does show is how easy postman have had it for too long.

Yea, cos that's the only changes they want, ain't it. Just because there are employees with worse terms and conditions than a postie, and I don't know if that's true about Asda, etc... I don't work for them, regardless, that's no justification to accept that we join them. We should be progressing, not going backwards. Those people working in worse conditions should be moving towards ours, not the other way round. Seriously, what a way think.

It’s the terms and conditions that many, many postmen have abused for so long.
People not doing van checks. Taking the mick with sick leave. Ghosting. Leaving early. They are the ones who got the big bosses head turned.
They can now see when people ghost or finish early (and still demanded a 10% pay deal!). They know that RM pays more in sack pay than pretty much any other company in uk.
The terms have been disrespected for too long.

not completely correct ghosting is the fault of your manager hes the one who says il give you x amount of hours for doing something he knows takes less time its easier for him that way.

Ghosting is a two way crime!!
The trap door to this company was 10 years ago. Once we had shareholders it was game over. We should have all stood outside on the picket against that. Once we went down that path it was always going to lead to this.

maybe but would you have crossed that picket line to?

[sweepster70]

It's either you support the union or you support Thompson and who the heck is going to support the latter.

I haven't witnessed people struggling financially at my office. Posties keep getting offered to come in early or stay out or work their day off and most reject the offer.

The overtime is there to make up for the strike days but people don't even want it.

How about the number one priority is supporting your family first?

Common sense thinking? Surprised you haven't been flamed to death for posting something like that.

Hardly common sense when it means undermining efforts to stop compulsory redundancies, pay cuts, cuts to terms and job security. How's the saying go again... Give a man a the chance to cross a picket line, while his colleagues make the sacrifice for him, and he'll support his family for a day. Give a man a job security, good pay and an all round square deal and he'll feed his family for life. Is that it?

Lol. If being a postman was the only job I could apply for I would agree with you. But even with the changes it will still be better than working at Asda or Aldi or yodel or evri.




It may not be as good as it was but is the job now as good as it was 5, 10, 15 years ago?

Even the new sick pay changes RM want are still better than most companies get. Some get nowt for being off sick.

What it does show is how easy postman have had it for too long.

Stop believing what the media write.
ASDA warehouse are on better pay and t and c's than us. They even get paid sick from day one like us now. They get more leave than us because of the bank holiday rule.
Also the more green docket they do (Not black) They get paid even more when on leave.