What if nobody signs it? They aren’t going to be able to replace over 100000 staff overnight.greengiant wrote: ↑23 Dec 2022, 20:45Rather than sack the entire workforce, they may issue us all with new contracts, along with the words "sign here or leave"?Dorset Plodder wrote: ↑23 Dec 2022, 19:29They cannot pick, and choose, who they sack. They have to sack the WHOLE Workforce.![]()
Do you think they're going to do that? There's a letter from the CWU doing the rounds explaining this in detail, with staements from RM and Legal bodies that this scenario is NOT going to happen.![]()
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Royal Mail could go bankrupt in the coming months unless serious changes happen.
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Nickvilla20
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Re: Royal Mail could go bankrupt in the coming months unless serious changes happen.
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Eduardo
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Re: Royal Mail could go bankrupt in the coming months unless serious changes happen.
That is the best policy.Nickvilla20 wrote: ↑23 Dec 2022, 21:00What if nobody signs it? They aren’t going to be able to replace over 100000 staff overnight.
Everybody refuse to sign en masse.
What are they going to do then?
There really is strength in numbers and unity.
Under Siege
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walthmstowman
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Re: Royal Mail could go bankrupt in the coming months unless serious changes happen.
Of course we do, it's just all spin. Total rubbish that nobody believes .Duesouth wrote: ↑23 Dec 2022, 17:00Just like the clear office brigade. Even we know stuff is hiding somewhere.postieblueshirt wrote: ↑23 Dec 2022, 16:54well if it does then its been well orchestrated and deliberate.
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Nickvilla20
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Re: Royal Mail could go bankrupt in the coming months unless serious changes happen.
We have an aging full time workforce the majority of newer staff are on 30 hours or less.Eduardo wrote: ↑23 Dec 2022, 21:16That is the best policy.Nickvilla20 wrote: ↑23 Dec 2022, 21:00What if nobody signs it? They aren’t going to be able to replace over 100000 staff overnight.
Everybody refuse to sign en masse.
What are they going to do then?
There really is strength in numbers and unity.
There would be no reason for the majority to sign newer contracts with less pay and poorer T&Cs. The Majority of people wouldn’t want to work for Royal Mail especially with all the negative press from the industrial action.
The company are proposing an hourly pay rate of £11.42 an hour after working that out you’re not much better off working for minimum wage in a supermarket and there you work in a nice warm clean environment and not having to walk 10 plus miles a day with 10KG plus bags on your shoulders.
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postieblueshirt
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Re: Royal Mail could go bankrupt in the coming months unless serious changes happen.
Like others have said new contract sign or loose your job il be signing nothing,they have to give you a timeframe with Asda it was 6 weeks so il be looking elsewhere if it happens...which it won't.
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plymouth3
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Re: Royal Mail could go bankrupt in the coming months unless serious changes happen.
It’s not that easy to declare bankruptcy even if separated from GLS.
Creditors would demand the selling of all the property throughout the Uk, there would literally be nothing left to run.
Creditors would demand the selling of all the property throughout the Uk, there would literally be nothing left to run.
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Elvisted
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Re: Royal Mail could go bankrupt in the coming months unless serious changes happen.
Absolute crap.....£1.7 billion in loan availability
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aiden01
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Re: Royal Mail could go bankrupt in the coming months unless serious changes happen.
Why are you carrying 10kg plus on your shoulders???Nickvilla20 wrote: ↑23 Dec 2022, 22:10We have an aging full time workforce the majority of newer staff are on 30 hours or less.Eduardo wrote: ↑23 Dec 2022, 21:16That is the best policy.Nickvilla20 wrote: ↑23 Dec 2022, 21:00What if nobody signs it? They aren’t going to be able to replace over 100000 staff overnight.
Everybody refuse to sign en masse.
What are they going to do then?
There really is strength in numbers and unity.
There would be no reason for the majority to sign newer contracts with less pay and poorer T&Cs. The Majority of people wouldn’t want to work for Royal Mail especially with all the negative press from the industrial action.
The company are proposing an hourly pay rate of £11.42 an hour after working that out you’re not much better off working for minimum wage in a supermarket and there you work in a nice warm clean environment and not having to walk 10 plus miles a day with 10KG plus bags on your shoulders.
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redlen
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Re: Royal Mail could go bankrupt in the coming months unless serious changes happen.
The runners and those who deliberately cut the job up can be blamed for this savings agenda by Simon Thompson. Particularly not using mandatory equipment such as trollies to get home and whatch Jeremy Kyle
They have all that lovely PDA data to back up their savings claim
They have all that lovely PDA data to back up their savings claim
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Barnacle
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Re: Royal Mail could go bankrupt in the coming months unless serious changes happen.
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The company are proposing an hourly pay rate of £11.42 an hour after working that out you’re not much better off working for minimum wage in a supermarket and there you work in a nice warm clean environment and not having to walk 10 plus miles a day with 10KG plus bags on your shoulders.
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Why are you carrying 10kg plus on your shoulders???
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I’ve had a manager tell me, (when I was expected to take 4 days mail out), that legally 16kgs is what I can carry so take it out.
The company are proposing an hourly pay rate of £11.42 an hour after working that out you’re not much better off working for minimum wage in a supermarket and there you work in a nice warm clean environment and not having to walk 10 plus miles a day with 10KG plus bags on your shoulders.
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Why are you carrying 10kg plus on your shoulders???
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I’ve had a manager tell me, (when I was expected to take 4 days mail out), that legally 16kgs is what I can carry so take it out.
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
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tractorboy2
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Re: Royal Mail could go bankrupt in the coming months unless serious changes happen.
The company are proposing an hourly pay rate of £11.42 an hour after working that out you’re not much better off working for minimum wage in a supermarket and there you work in a nice warm clean environment and not having to walk 10 plus miles a day with 10KG plus bags on your shoulders.
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Why are you carrying 10kg plus on your shoulders???
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I’ve had a manager tell me, (when I was expected to take 4 days mail out), that legally 16kgs is what I can carry so take it out.
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Back in the old days , that was the maximum weight , of the first bag only. Every subsequent pouch was 11kg.
I think Aiden means why aren't you using a trolley, as you do not need to carry.
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thefox
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Re: Royal Mail could go bankrupt in the coming months unless serious changes happen.
The company are proposing an hourly pay rate of £11.42 an hour after working that out you’re not much better off working for minimum wage in a supermarket and there you work in a nice warm clean environment and not having to walk 10 plus miles a day with 10KG plus bags on your shoulders.
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Why are you carrying 10kg plus on your shoulders???
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I’ve had a manager tell me, (when I was expected to take 4 days mail out), that legally 16kgs is what I can carry so take it out.
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16 kgs first bag ,is it not less for each bag as you go on thats what i was told when i started
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Clairedarep
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Re: Royal Mail could go bankrupt in the coming months unless serious changes happen.
Let’s be honest, they aren’t going bankrupt, they have to keep the share price down so kretinsky can buy it at the cheapest possible price in jan/feb, he bought 11 million worth of shares two days ago, it made the share price rise a little so to counter that you have to release doom stories to get it back down, it’s market manipulation, I’m not sure if it’s legal but when the government stand to gain from it they turn a blind eye
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Barnacle
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Re: Royal Mail could go bankrupt in the coming months unless serious changes happen.
Why are you carrying 10kg plus on your shoulders???tractorboy2 wrote: ↑24 Dec 2022, 10:31The company are proposing an hourly pay rate of £11.42 an hour after working that out you’re not much better off working for minimum wage in a supermarket and there you work in a nice warm clean environment and not having to walk 10 plus miles a day with 10KG plus bags on your shoulders.
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I’ve had a manager tell me, (when I was expected to take 4 days mail out), that legally 16kgs is what I can carry so take it out.
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Back in the old days , that was the maximum weight , of the first bag only. Every subsequent pouch was 11kg.
I think Aiden means why aren't you using a trolley, as you do not need to carry.
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Not all managers care about the physical safety of us. They want the mail cleared, they know the max weight, and they don’t care about the rest. Some people can get away with arguing with such a manager but not everyone can.
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
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clashcityrocker
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Re: Royal Mail could go bankrupt in the coming months unless serious changes happen.
You don't need to have an argument.
You just need to use a lightweight trolley.
In fact the relevant national agreement states something like - "the use of the correct equipment will be mandatory"
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.