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VR - POLL - Who gets it at your depot....

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VR - Who gets it at your depot....

Nobody - Because we are so understaffed.
212
45%
Highest Seniority.
139
29%
Cheapest to let go (lower seniority).
33
7%
Decrepit Posties who can barely walk.
27
6%
Non Drivers.
20
4%
Manager's most hated employees.
26
5%
Manager's favourite employees.
17
4%
 
Total votes: 474

norris9
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Re: VR - POLL - Who gets it at your depot....

Post by norris9 »

Anyone signed on the dotted line yet?
rambo1
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Re: VR - POLL - Who gets it at your depot....

Post by rambo1 »

RobertT wrote:
17 Dec 2022, 04:38
roman wrote:
16 Dec 2022, 22:45
Did you have the option of going straight away and paying the tax ?
There is no option to do that! Why would there be? :hmmmm

The first £30k of redundancy is tax free.

You'll be given a leaving date. If that is in 12 weeks or more, you'll be expected to work those weeks. If it's less you'll be given PILON, which is taxable.
How does PILON work as opposed to working 12 weeks notice? Surely it makes sense for royal mail if you had to actualy do some work for 12 weeks instead of paying you to not work?
mags999
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Re: VR - POLL - Who gets it at your depot....

Post by mags999 »

Anyone got any idea why you have to have a solicitor and the costs of one if true
Mcclinton
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Re: VR - POLL - Who gets it at your depot....

Post by Mcclinton »

The end of March has been mentioned as the finish date so that is roughly 12 weeks.
RobertT
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Re: VR - POLL - Who gets it at your depot....

Post by RobertT »

rambo1 wrote:
19 Dec 2022, 21:27
RobertT wrote:
17 Dec 2022, 04:38
roman wrote:
16 Dec 2022, 22:45
Did you have the option of going straight away and paying the tax ?
There is no option to do that! Why would there be? :hmmmm

The first £30k of redundancy is tax free.

You'll be given a leaving date. If that is in 12 weeks or more, you'll be expected to work those weeks. If it's less you'll be given PILON, which is taxable.
How does PILON work as opposed to working 12 weeks notice? Surely it makes sense for royal mail if you had to actualy do some work for 12 weeks instead of paying you to not work?
If they want you out of the door sooner, like when an office revision kicks in, they may well pay PILON.
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rambo1
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Re: VR - POLL - Who gets it at your depot....

Post by rambo1 »

RobertT wrote:
20 Dec 2022, 06:14
rambo1 wrote:
19 Dec 2022, 21:27
RobertT wrote:
17 Dec 2022, 04:38
roman wrote:
16 Dec 2022, 22:45
Did you have the option of going straight away and paying the tax ?
There is no option to do that! Why would there be? :hmmmm

The first £30k of redundancy is tax free.

You'll be given a leaving date. If that is in 12 weeks or more, you'll be expected to work those weeks. If it's less you'll be given PILON, which is taxable.
How does PILON work as opposed to working 12 weeks notice? Surely it makes sense for royal mail if you had to actualy do some work for 12 weeks instead of paying you to not work?
If they want you out of the door sooner, like when an office revision kicks in, they may well pay PILON.
Got fingers and toes crossed for either.
Nickvilla20
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Re: VR - POLL - Who gets it at your depot....

Post by Nickvilla20 »

Heard today 6 at my office will get it but 48 applied so I’m hopeful.
RobertT
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Re: VR - POLL - Who gets it at your depot....

Post by RobertT »

rambo1 wrote:
20 Dec 2022, 15:33
Got fingers and toes crossed for either.
I'm hoping too. :pray

I think they're still in the planning stage of our revision, so we haven't been given any more details about VR's yet.
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roman
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Re: VR - POLL - Who gets it at your depot....

Post by roman »

Have the revisions got to be agreed before Xmas ?It seems from what people are saying v r’s have to be completed in 12 weeks to the end of March.
RobertT
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Re: VR - POLL - Who gets it at your depot....

Post by RobertT »

I think RM's plan is that revisions will be implemented by the end of the financial year. So they have 3 months or so to achieve that.

Some of those revisions may well be more or less done on paper, and anyone getting VR in those offices will have probably been told by now. Those people will probably be working their 12 weeks notice.

Other revisions may still be in the planning stage and anyone getting VR might not be told until sometime in January. In which case, they might have to work some notice and receive some PILON.

The preference exercise tile did say all the paperwork should be signed by the 31st January.
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luddite
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Re: VR - POLL - Who gets it at your depot....

Post by luddite »

Our manager has said that there will definitely be no VRs in our office as we are short staffed.
Isn't every office short staffed?
Is that it then? No VRs or is there still hope! :hmmmm
You would think RM would let you know one way or the other!
luddite
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Re: VR - POLL - Who gets it at your depot....

Post by luddite »

Our manager has said that there will definitely be no VRs in our office as we are short staffed.
Isn't every office short staffed?
Is that it then? No VRs or is there still hope! :hmmmm
You would think RM would let you know one way or the other!
norris9
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Re: VR - POLL - Who gets it at your depot....

Post by norris9 »

luddite wrote:
20 Dec 2022, 18:53
Our manager has said that there will definitely be no VRs in our office as we are short staffed.
Isn't every office short staffed?
Is that it then? No VRs or is there still hope! :hmmmm
You would think RM would let you know one way or the other!
Well...based on this poll half the offices are short staffed therefore no VR at those offices.... which I am not surprised about. My large Mail Centre is 30% understaffed.

Nobody has yet to confirm that they have signed on the dotted line and therefore are 100% leaving with VR yet.
dudek05
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Joined: 15 Nov 2019, 21:50
Gender: Male

Re: VR - POLL - Who gets it at your depot....

Post by dudek05 »

Two weeks ago we were briefed by a manager that no one in our office was getting vr due to vacancies we carry. Today we get another briefing that 9 staff have now been offered it. Seems to be on seniority.
roman
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Re: VR - POLL - Who gets it at your depot....

Post by roman »

How many are in your office. I wondered if there doing the v r’s in the smaller offices first ?