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A deal can be done!!!

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norris9
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A deal can be done!!!

Post by norris9 »

Based on what we've heard today - a deal can be done.....

- No Compulsory redundancies.

- Sunday working to be voluntary.

- No official source as to start and finish times, but some dude on here claims Start time: 8.45 for F/Ts, 10.15 for P/Ts. As long as there is no annualised hours - fine - I could deal with this.

- Pay - needs a bit of refinement - it's not quite there.


Surely a few days of talks this weekend or early next week and a deal can be offered to the members!!! - right??????????


GET IN A ROOM, REFINE IT AND GET THIS ON PAPER!
enskied
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Re: A deal can be done!!!

Post by enskied »

Don't believe a word if it.
CRIBMAD
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Re: A deal can be done!!!

Post by CRIBMAD »

norris9 wrote:
15 Dec 2022, 19:22
Based on what we've heard today - a deal can be done.....

- No Compulsory redundancies.

- Sunday working to be voluntary.

- No official source as to start and finish times, but some dude on here claims Start time: 8.45 for F/Ts, 10.15 for P/Ts. As long as there is no annualised hours - fine - I could deal with this.

- Pay - needs a bit of refinement - it's not quite there.


Surely a few days of talks this weekend or early next week and a deal can be offered to the members!!! - right??????????


GET IN A ROOM, REFINE IT AND GET THIS ON PAPER!
dont think you understand THEY DO NOT WANT A DEAL !
koolishy67
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Re: A deal can be done!!!

Post by koolishy67 »

Problem is cwu and RM not agreeing one issue is new entrants with less pay and different term and conditions
pieoftheday
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Re: A deal can be done!!!

Post by pieoftheday »

norris9 wrote:
15 Dec 2022, 19:22
Based on what we've heard today - a deal can be done.....

- No Compulsory redundancies.

- Sunday working to be voluntary.

- No official source as to start and finish times, but some dude on here claims Start time: 8.45 for F/Ts, 10.15 for P/Ts. As long as there is no annualised hours - fine - I could deal with this.

- Pay - needs a bit of refinement - it's not quite there.


Surely a few days of talks this weekend or early next week and a deal can be offered to the members!!! - right??????????


GET IN A ROOM, REFINE IT AND GET THIS ON PAPER!
Oh dear, no compulsory redundancy, what until March 23,? Get a fookin grip
CRIBMAD
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Re: A deal can be done!!!

Post by CRIBMAD »

THEY WANT EVERYONE TO SCAB ,BRINGING ABOUT THE END OF THE UNION AND THEN WE ARE THEIR BITCHES TO DO WHAT THEY WANT WITH !!
Duesouth
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Re: A deal can be done!!!

Post by Duesouth »

- No Compulsory redundancies.

Till 2023. One year away and they could get rid of 20,000 if they liked. That doesn't give me reassurance or confidence that I'll be in the job for the next 5 years.
Murdoch
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Re: A deal can be done!!!

Post by Murdoch »

enskied wrote:
15 Dec 2022, 19:26
Don't believe a word if it.
That's the point ain't it. Commit to no Compulsory redundancies in an agreement, then we're closer to an agreement.

If they don't then we aren't, because people don't trust a single thing the company says.
toonshola
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Re: A deal can be done!!!

Post by toonshola »

Still miles off from what I can see.

They still want an unlimited amount of owner drivers for the large parcel network. We cannot allow that to happen.

There is still no commitment to get rid of agency staff before they remove permanent staff. We cannot allow that to happen.

They are still wanting to bring in new staff on less pay and less favourable conditions than us current staff. We cannot allow that to happen.

They still want to ram in revisions without any CWU involvement, we cannot allow that to happen.

They still want to monitor our every move via Pda actuals and use the data for conduct/dismissal. Again we cannot allow that to happen.

Apart from that yeah we are pretty close :chuckle
bigal383
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Re: A deal can be done!!!

Post by bigal383 »

Your off your rocker pal if you believe that’s all they want
We haven’t been striking all these months for that

They’ll be no terms and conditions it’s not just about pay and start times Sundays was always going to be voluntary for a while and u think sign the deal

Give your head a wobble
LouBarlow
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Re: A deal can be done!!!

Post by LouBarlow »

norris9 wrote:
15 Dec 2022, 19:22
Based on what we've heard today - a deal can be done.....

- No Compulsory redundancies.

- Sunday working to be voluntary.

- No official source as to start and finish times, but some dude on here claims Start time: 8.45 for F/Ts, 10.15 for P/Ts. As long as there is no annualised hours - fine - I could deal with this.

- Pay - needs a bit of refinement - it's not quite there.


Surely a few days of talks this weekend or early next week and a deal can be offered to the members!!! - right??????????


GET IN A ROOM, REFINE IT AND GET THIS ON PAPER!
This was the final deal that the union rejected weeks ago. If that is as good as it gets then I have no idea why it wasn’t put to the vote.
Aardvark
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Re: A deal can be done!!!

Post by Aardvark »

A deal that would satisfy RM would not satisfy the workforce.

All that are currently crossing the picket lines and those that say we need to just get some sort of deal are going to find themselves right royally shafted in a few months and in the process will shaft those of us who are prepared to take the financial hit for better outcome.

We have to fight on.
yubin282
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Re: A deal can be done!!!

Post by yubin282 »

Just my opinion, I can see a cash incentive from RM to "scab" the 23rd and 24th.
TopperGas
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Re: A deal can be done!!!

Post by TopperGas »

LouBarlow wrote:
15 Dec 2022, 19:37
norris9 wrote:
15 Dec 2022, 19:22
Based on what we've heard today - a deal can be done.....

- No Compulsory redundancies.

- Sunday working to be voluntary.

- No official source as to start and finish times, but some dude on here claims Start time: 8.45 for F/Ts, 10.15 for P/Ts. As long as there is no annualised hours - fine - I could deal with this.

- Pay - needs a bit of refinement - it's not quite there.


Surely a few days of talks this weekend or early next week and a deal can be offered to the members!!! - right??????????


GET IN A ROOM, REFINE IT AND GET THIS ON PAPER!
This was the final deal that the union rejected weeks ago. If that is as good as it gets then I have no idea why it wasn’t put to the vote.
That's very similar to the CWU's own proposals last week apart from they wanted to discuss the changes to the T&C's further rather than just agree them, I'm sensing the CWU will be under increasing pressure to agree a deal before next week's strikes, as I'm hearing a number of our OPG's are considering returning to work rather than miss out on their Christmas tips!!
postieblueshirt
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Re: A deal can be done!!!

Post by postieblueshirt »

yubin282 wrote:
15 Dec 2022, 19:45
Just my opinion, I can see a cash incentive from RM to "scab" the 23rd and 24th.
il take 1.7 billion no less