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Just rang no sick pay

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Re: Just rang no sick pay

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This can’t be real surely :crazy:
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Re: Just rang no sick pay

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That'll make people want to work for this company, won't it? :crazy:

Spite and malice, the hallmarks of Royal Mail management.
A dispicable bastard of a company, and the men and women who are behind this, a shower of total bastards.
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Re: Just rang no sick pay

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RM have to pay you SSP no matter what, they cannot break the law. It doesn't matter a toss if we are in dispute, they may break the terms of your contract but even they cannot break the law. If he thinks he can, he is in for a rude awakening, the compensation would far outway anything else.
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Re: Just rang no sick pay

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Surreypostie wrote:
12 Dec 2022, 20:58
RM have to pay you SSP no matter what, they cannot break the law. It doesn't matter a toss if we are in dispute, they may break the terms of your contract but even they cannot break the law. If he thinks he can, he is in for a rude awakening, the compensation would far outway anything else.
SSP is £0.00 for the first days though
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
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Re: Just rang no sick pay

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plymouth3 wrote:
12 Dec 2022, 20:06
I phoned in today sick and then follow up call to say come in on light duties or no sick pay. I said I’m to ill to attend so unauthorised day it is!
I'd be going to the GP and saying it's all stressing me out, get signed off for a few weeks. Presumably you'd get paid for that. That'll teach them.
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Re: Just rang no sick pay

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1st 3 days it is zero. We have contractural rights though. He cannot just break a contractural right and expect to get away with it, if you are genuinely sick as everyone is and you have a doctors certificate I think he is on the back foot here.
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Re: Just rang no sick pay

Post by POSTPERSON50 »

Just follow the procedure.

Inform the unit you will be taking sick leave in good time.
You need to produce a self certification note within a few days, not your first day of absence.

Whatever they tell you regarding not being paid for your absence, let them do it.

If they take money from you, it will be returned to you pretty soon as it is illegal. Don't bother arguing with anyone or getting upset.
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Re: Just rang no sick pay

Post by Surreypostie »

This may just be rogue managers trying to scare people in certain areas. Our area manager stated people who go sick will not be paid for strike days, when asked to put that in writing by our COM they refused point blank.
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Andrea Escott
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No, it hasn’t. RM sick pay has always been conditional on certain criteria and that remains the same; for example, that it must be necessary for genuine illness.

A manager has the discretion to determine whether it’s necessary and genuine in certain circumstances and always has had that discretion. It’s decided on a case-by-case basis, and that hasn't changed either.

Any questions relating to specific absences need to be raised with the COM / WAM / Line Manager who’s making the decision.

As I mentioned - any specifics need to be raised through your COM.
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Re: Just rang no sick pay

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CRIBMAD wrote:
12 Dec 2022, 19:58
dazzler123 wrote:
12 Dec 2022, 19:49
LouBarlow wrote:
12 Dec 2022, 19:40
Wait, is this only strike days you are not being paid for or regular working days too? I get it if you phone in sick on a strike day, but wow it sounds like they are going full nuclear.
any day, i was warned last week
trolling again i see !
what are you on about you clown. Several people from all over are reporting the same thing
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I’ve been told it’s been cleared with HR not to pay sickness on strike days , don’t know if this is on an individual office basis or not but it is definitely happening.
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Re: Just rang no sick pay

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Fight fire with fire, tell your COM you want it in writing because you’re taking it to an employment tribunal and throw in a grievance too. See if the COM still stands by their decision. And if you have any annual leave still to take, remind him/her that you no longer agree to roll it over so you’ll need to take it before the end of the holiday year.
The day is gonna come when we’re all gonna have to testify.

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spaceman07
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Re: Just rang no sick pay

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You don't need a sick note for the first 6 days do you, it's only for the 7th day onwards?
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Re: Just rang no sick pay

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Expect other LTB asap on this issue of non payment of sick pay!
It's illegal end of!
See you in court RM :dance :wave
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Re: Just rang no sick pay

Post by portadown »

U need to ask ur manger to put it in writing that he's not paying u sick money and if royalmail go to a tribunal u have it in writing even if a manger tell u its only parcels to day ask him for it in writing that's what he are her want u to do keep a dairy and make sure u write everything down so if they sack u have a record off every thing that has went on just incase u need it for a tribunal