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Our Two Ballots
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Surreypostie
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Our Two Ballots
Dave Ward mentioned our ballots in the CWU live yesterday, he mentioned they will both expire. He said we will be balloted again in the new year. Does anyone know when the mandates expire and we have to stop? It seems like years have passed since our ballots.
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yellowbelly
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Re: Our Two Ballots
The legislation states 6 months from date of ballot (which AFAIK is the date the result is announced).Surreypostie wrote: ↑09 Dec 2022, 08:08Dave Ward mentioned our ballots in the CWU live yesterday, he mentioned they will both expire. He said we will be balloted again in the new year. Does anyone know when the mandates expire and we have to stop? It seems like years have passed since our ballots.
So first ballot result was 19th July and the second 17th August so six months from those dates.
Who knows whether that means 182/183 days or whether it means 19th Jan and 17th Feb (which might
be slightly different can't be bothered to work it out) who knows.....
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CRIBMAD
- EX ROYAL MAIL
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Re: Our Two Ballots
pay ballot expires dec 23rd
conditions expires march 2023 so our strike on 24th december is legitimate !
thats been confirmed by my union rep
conditions expires march 2023 so our strike on 24th december is legitimate !
thats been confirmed by my union rep
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yellowbelly
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Re: Our Two Ballots
Don't know how they've worked that out, there's a two month gap between the expiry dates your rep has quoted
but there was only a month between the two results.
Is your rep not getting the protections from being dismissed due to IA after 12 weeks expiring on 23 Dec following the employer (RM) involving
ACAS for the first pay ballot expiry date you're quoting?
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Surreypostie
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Re: Our Two Ballots
So we have to reballot before about the 17th of feb to continue taking any action.yellowbelly wrote: ↑09 Dec 2022, 08:59The legislation states 6 months from date of ballot (which AFAIK is the date the result is announced).Surreypostie wrote: ↑09 Dec 2022, 08:08Dave Ward mentioned our ballots in the CWU live yesterday, he mentioned they will both expire. He said we will be balloted again in the new year. Does anyone know when the mandates expire and we have to stop? It seems like years have passed since our ballots.
So first ballot result was 19th July and the second 17th August so six months from those dates.
Who knows whether that means 182/183 days or whether it means 19th Jan and 17th Feb (which might
be slightly different can't be bothered to work it out) who knows.....
So from what we all see on a daily basis with our own eyes, the union best get that organised pretty damn quick or the ballot papers will just sit in boxes piled up in DO's and not make the round trip in time.
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norris9
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Re: Our Two Ballots
We can prioritise them just like management prioritises tracked parcels.Surreypostie wrote: ↑09 Dec 2022, 09:29So from what we all see on a daily basis with our own eyes, the union best get that organised pretty damn quick or the ballot papers will just sit in boxes piled up in DO's and not make the round trip in time.
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yellowbelly
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Re: Our Two Ballots
Or the NHS letters that were 'prioritised' for delivery tomorrow on the letter sorting machine that was on BBC Breakfast at Mt Pleasant!!norris9 wrote: ↑09 Dec 2022, 09:40We can prioritise them just like management prioritises tracked parcels.Surreypostie wrote: ↑09 Dec 2022, 09:29So from what we all see on a daily basis with our own eyes, the union best get that organised pretty damn quick or the ballot papers will just sit in boxes piled up in DO's and not make the round trip in time.
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SpacePhoenix
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Re: Our Two Ballots
We run them separate on an iLSM and the iLSMs have got an extra configuration option where the NHS letters get extracted. I know at least one DO locally just bungs them with all the other letters on the IPS, I suspect that it'll be the same for a very high percentage of DOs. RM may as well have not bothered and let us sequence them along with the rest of the mech lettersyellowbelly wrote: ↑09 Dec 2022, 09:47Or the NHS letters that were 'prioritised' for delivery tomorrow on the letter sorting machine that was on BBC Breakfast at Mt Pleasant!!norris9 wrote: ↑09 Dec 2022, 09:40We can prioritise them just like management prioritises tracked parcels.Surreypostie wrote: ↑09 Dec 2022, 09:29So from what we all see on a daily basis with our own eyes, the union best get that organised pretty damn quick or the ballot papers will just sit in boxes piled up in DO's and not make the round trip in time.
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clashcityrocker
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Re: Our Two Ballots
Our NHS letters arrive in bundles with the Special Deliveries.
They are then handed to the sorters on IPS. After that?
They are then handed to the sorters on IPS. After that?
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.
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yellowbelly
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Re: Our Two Ballots
When we get them they're either in the sequenced or in the flats for IPS sorting, no prioritisation directed or given at the last mile.SpacePhoenix wrote: ↑09 Dec 2022, 11:17We run them separate on an iLSM and the iLSMs have got an extra configuration option where the NHS letters get extracted. I know at least one DO locally just bungs them with all the other letters on the IPS, I suspect that it'll be the same for a very high percentage of DOs. RM may as well have not bothered and let us sequence them along with the rest of the mech lettersyellowbelly wrote: ↑09 Dec 2022, 09:47
Or the NHS letters that were 'prioritised' for delivery tomorrow on the letter sorting machine that was on BBC Breakfast at Mt Pleasant!!
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Jack1960
- EX ROYAL MAIL
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Re: Our Two Ballots
NHS letters go to our locker and are put on IPS for immediate sorting and are delivered .yellowbelly wrote: ↑09 Dec 2022, 09:47Or the NHS letters that were 'prioritised' for delivery tomorrow on the letter sorting machine that was on BBC Breakfast at Mt Pleasant!!norris9 wrote: ↑09 Dec 2022, 09:40We can prioritise them just like management prioritises tracked parcels.Surreypostie wrote: ↑09 Dec 2022, 09:29So from what we all see on a daily basis with our own eyes, the union best get that organised pretty damn quick or the ballot papers will just sit in boxes piled up in DO's and not make the round trip in time.
Our office has cleared every day the only overtime has been for belateds