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Government's new anti Trade union laws

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Re: Government's new anti Trade union laws

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hans solo wrote:
08 Dec 2022, 20:12
bensonhedge wrote:
08 Dec 2022, 19:43
Governments crack and system's fall cos unity is powerful..
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Re: Government's new anti Trade union laws

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Halfhappy wrote:
08 Dec 2022, 21:51
I think the minimum service is currently only railworkers, I believe. The ban on emergency workers not being allowed to strike, is only at the stage where Sunak has refused to rule it out. I've just read a guardian piece where both Starmer and Reeves have apparently refused to repeal the laws, when in power. The information could be wrong, I'm sure it'll be corrected if it is.
They could pass a law saying RM must deliver tracked and specials :nana
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Re: Government's new anti Trade union laws

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Clappedoutpostie wrote:
08 Dec 2022, 22:18
Halfhappy wrote:
08 Dec 2022, 21:51
I think the minimum service is currently only railworkers, I believe. The ban on emergency workers not being allowed to strike, is only at the stage where Sunak has refused to rule it out. I've just read a guardian piece where both Starmer and Reeves have apparently refused to repeal the laws, when in power. The information could be wrong, I'm sure it'll be corrected if it is.
They could pass a law saying RM must deliver tracked and specials :nana
Is not what managers were for.
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Re: Government's new anti Trade union laws

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k979aaa wrote:
08 Dec 2022, 22:21
Clappedoutpostie wrote:
08 Dec 2022, 22:18
Halfhappy wrote:
08 Dec 2022, 21:51
I think the minimum service is currently only railworkers, I believe. The ban on emergency workers not being allowed to strike, is only at the stage where Sunak has refused to rule it out. I've just read a guardian piece where both Starmer and Reeves have apparently refused to repeal the laws, when in power. The information could be wrong, I'm sure it'll be corrected if it is.
They could pass a law saying RM must deliver tracked and specials :nana
Is not what managers were for.
It's shared with cleaners now apparently.
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Re: Government's new anti Trade union laws

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There isn't enough room in prisons for real criminals.
Bring it on Tories, just one, single, show of mass disobedience to that law, will render it utterly useless, never mind the rest.
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Re: Government's new anti Trade union laws

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CRIBMAD wrote:
08 Dec 2022, 19:36
Eduardo wrote:
08 Dec 2022, 19:08
I was hoping we could have a discussion about the Government's proposed anti Union laws.
I don't know much about the subject so would be very interested in others input.

What will happen in the future if we have industrial disputes with our employer Royal mail?
Thanks.
4 posts mmmmmm lol more scaremongering by management wallers
Well, counter it with well-reasoned arguments then.

Unfounded comments like this whether they are for or against striking members or management are counter-productive and feed the narrative of this site is full of "Rabid Left wing knuckledraggers". I am left wing and I think some on our side need to up our game.
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Re: Government's new anti Trade union laws

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The laws are a trap for the next Labour government. They'll be under pressure to repeal them, at the same time under pressure from union's to award large pay rises in line with inflation. Labour gonna inherit a financial mess, and probably conclude such rises are unaffordable and politically difficult as the private sector won't be getting rises anything like inline with inflation rises. That'll then split the party.
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Re: Government's new anti Trade union laws

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TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
09 Dec 2022, 06:56
CRIBMAD wrote:
08 Dec 2022, 19:36
Eduardo wrote:
08 Dec 2022, 19:08
I was hoping we could have a discussion about the Government's proposed anti Union laws.
I don't know much about the subject so would be very interested in others input.

What will happen in the future if we have industrial disputes with our employer Royal mail?
Thanks.
4 posts mmmmmm lol more scaremongering by management wallers
Well, counter it with well-reasoned arguments then.

Unfounded comments like this whether they are for or against striking members or management are counter-productive and feed the narrative of this site is full of "Rabid Left wing knuckledraggers". I am left wing and I think some on our side need to up our game.

Many employees are not clued up on government legislation, that is why they asked for advice as a layperson. How can an employee asking questions offer a reasoned argument with little or no understanding of that current legislation?
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Re: Government's new anti Trade union laws

Post by Kenfandango »

The headline was "Starmer refuses to say he will repeal anti union laws" but I believe he actually said he'd wait and see whether they actually happen before commenting as this government backtrack every couple of days...
Not really a fan of Starmer but the "they're all the same" argument doesn't really wash when the Tories have presided over such cataclysmic disasters whilst getting very rich
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Re: Government's new anti Trade union laws

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The labour party must have a massive opportunity to get people on his side, granted he might not be able to sanction big pay rises but he could promise to uphold workers rights so we arnt dragged into having dreadful working environments ?
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Re: Government's new anti Trade union laws

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Trade Unions that campaigned for Brexit such as the RMT have allowed the Tories this bonfire of workers rights.

The EU offered minimum protections with the right to strike through the Social Chapter and the TFEU.

Those minimum worker protections are now extinct since we left the EU allowing the tories to do whatever they like.
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Re: Government's new anti Trade union laws

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Tories, Labour and the EU all serve themselves and nobody else, to paraphrase George Carlin "it's a big club and we ain't in it".
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Re: Government's new anti Trade union laws

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milly wrote:
09 Dec 2022, 17:57
Tories, Labour and the EU all serve themselves and nobody else, to paraphrase George Carlin "it's a big club and we ain't in it".


I think there is a difference?
https://labour.org.uk/wp-content/upload ... -Paper.pdf
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Re: Government's new anti Trade union laws

Post by Binsey »

I seem to remember a Labour Government from 1997 - 2010 didn’t they repeal all Anti Trade Union laws?

Oh sorry I forgot they didn’t repeal a single one.

Utter filth the whole Political Elite.
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Re: Government's new anti Trade union laws

Post by milly »

sweepster70 wrote:
09 Dec 2022, 18:12
milly wrote:
09 Dec 2022, 17:57
Tories, Labour and the EU all serve themselves and nobody else, to paraphrase George Carlin "it's a big club and we ain't in it".


I think there is a difference?
https://labour.org.uk/wp-content/upload ... -Paper.pdf
Yes Labour are going to save us :cuppa
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