23rd December

[Halfhappy]

Nobody is getting sacked. Worse case would be a new contract put infront of you. Unlikely as ST has said himself, there will be no fire and rehire.

I concur. I'd really like to see if anyone can pull up an example of this happening, the dismissal specifically after 12 weeks, not the contracts. Members are worrying tho, so it's clearly a thing now. This has been mentioned to me in work several times.

[grchpo]

Nobody is getting sacked. Worse case would be a new contract put infront of you. Unlikely as ST has said himself, there will be no fire and rehire.

He also said there would no compulsory redundancy

[sindba]

No-one listen to redlen's scaremongering.

RMT were out for months. Royal Mail have made no genuine attempts at resolution. And we have a change ballot to cover us.

IF for some reason we're not covered, the CWU will call it off. Everyone calm down and carry on.

[aiden01]

No-one listen to that clueless redlen troll's scaremongering. He's just a little attenton seeking Thompson lickspittle.

RMT were out for months. Royal Mail have made no genuine attempts at resolution. And we have a change ballot to cover us.

IF for some reason we're not covered, the CWU will call it off. Everyone calm down and carry on.

Not defending redlen but did you not read tbt's earlier post about silly abuse of other poster's.??

[sindba]

Not defending redlen but did you not read tbt's earlier post about silly abuse of other poster's.??

I hadn't seen it, thanks

[aiden01]

Not defending redlen but did you not read tbt's earlier post about silly abuse of other poster's.??

I hadn't seen it, thanks

Just a head's up going to start banning people.

[sindba]

Not defending redlen but did you not read tbt's earlier post about silly abuse of other poster's.??

I hadn't seen it, thanks

Just a head's up going to start banning people.

Yep, have read it now and edited my post accordingly!

[aiden01]

Not defending redlen but did you not read tbt's earlier post about silly abuse of other poster's.??

I hadn't seen it, thanks

Just a head's up going to start banning people.

Yep, have read it now and edited my post accordingly!

[Hyrrokkin]

There are really some s**t stirring professional scaremongers on this site

RM sacking 115,000 at the same time - give me a break



The legal and PR nightmare that would ensue would be a disaster for RM
Never mind the logistics,admin nightmare on top

[arsenalbob]

Can someone from the union give a definite answer otherwise you will get a lot of people not risking it

Martin Walsh mentioned this a week or so ago in another thread, he said, legal advice will be sought. On the government website it states, you can be sacked after 12 weeks if certain conditions are met. It's on the government website, it is not gossip, it is not best guess, it is the law of the land. Can he do it, probably yes, will he do it? He has said there will be no fire and rehire. Do I believe him? No. We will soon find out and unfortunately, RM have much more money to throw at courts and legal departments, lawyers etc than the union do. Pretty much everyone that makes these decisions about us on the PEC are just postman elected to their jobs by us. It is out of our hands and no point worrying about it. Dave Ward talks about being in this for the long haul if necessary, I am hoping to be out very soon. All I know is, a lot of people in my office have told me, they will give up if this isn't resolved soon. My personal belief is, he is running down the clock, the shareholders are willing to take a hit this year to break us. If they win this, the losses they take this year will have been worth it. All this is just my opinion, it's not right or wrong, just an opinion. I know, I am beyond caring, the whole lot can crash and burn for all I care now. I don't care that we are being told to prioritise parcels over letters, that is an issue for the regulator, RM pay the fines not me. I go to work, do what I am instructed to do and go home, if the place burns down I don't care. If all the vans fall apart and I have nothing to drive, I don't care.If the PDA's don't work, I don't care. If we don't reach an agreement, I don't care, lets be honest, he has torn them up so they are not worth the paper they are written on. If people deciedd to give up and cross the picket line, I don't care. I won't be joining them, I am fortunate, I can afford to strike and I am enjoying having all these days off. If we lose business because of it, guess what, I don't care.

im with you i couldnt give a toss,and will never cross that line.

Well said. Why should we give a f**k when the feeling’s clearly mutual. And the days off are most enjoyable especially the forthcoming Christmas break of 5 days

[Binsey]

[quote=Hyrrokkin post_id=1017079 time=1670005541 user_id=114754]
There are really some s**t stirring professional scaremongers on this site

RM sacking 115,000 at the same time - give me a break

:crazy: :crazy:

The legal and PR nightmare that would ensue would be a disaster for RM
Never mind the logistics,admin nightmare on top
[/quote]


I think our Terms Of Employment is a bigger worry to be honest.

[toonshola]

We should probably all stop flapping about the dates of 23rd and 24th. In my mind these are not real strike dates and ultimately won’t happen, they are just there to put some more pressure on. If Royal Mail have not budged on their current position(let’s be real they won’t have) by the time these dates roll around then the CWU will cancel them for some good publicity, saying we are the saviours of Xmas with a vocational sense of purpose etc etc.

[citypostie]

We should probably all stop flapping about the dates of 23rd and 24th. In my mind these are not real strike dates and ultimately won’t happen, they are just there to put some more pressure on. If Royal Mail have not budged on their current position(let’s be real they won’t have) by the time these dates roll around then the CWU will cancel them for some good publicity, saying we are the saviours of Xmas with a vocational sense of purpose etc etc.

I'll be gutted if they do! I can't wait my day off is the 22nd, I'd rather they announce 28th to 31st as strike dates so we can have a proper Xmas break for once

[k979aaa]

I would rather we got a deal to vote on than the time off but a crap deal that is the final offer is not a deal but a surrender document that none of us can even contemplate voting for!

[moonjaguar]

We should probably all stop flapping about the dates of 23rd and 24th. In my mind these are not real strike dates and ultimately won’t happen, they are just there to put some more pressure on. If Royal Mail have not budged on their current position(let’s be real they won’t have) by the time these dates roll around then the CWU will cancel them for some good publicity, saying we are the saviours of Xmas with a vocational sense of purpose etc etc.

If the union cancels these strike dates to get some good publicity for the mostly thick, tory voting halfwits that we endure in this country, I will cancel my subs and find a new job. We should be all out, general strike, the two weeks before xmas.