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sundays

Postal workers discussion forum. Discuss the day to day life in a Blue Shirt.
tractorboy2
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Re: sundays

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DirtyHarry wrote:
22 Nov 2022, 06:01
qwerty2 wrote:
20 Nov 2022, 10:01
Not surprised they want us working Sundays
Just seen about 10 Amazon vans going down the road in the last 5 minutes!!!
They will never get me to work even 1 Sunday.
I'm a Christian that takes God's 4th commandment very seriously.
It's a Saturday you shouldn't be working then.
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Re: sundays

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DirtyHarry wrote:
22 Nov 2022, 06:01
They will never get me to work even 1 Sunday.
I'm a Christian that takes God's 4th commandment very seriously.
What about all the other not so convenient stuff in the bible?

Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material. Leviticus 19:19

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I'm turning purple!
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Re: sundays

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No wonder these people are being led by the nose, back to the 19th century.
:arrrghhh
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Re: sundays

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DirtyHarry wrote:
22 Nov 2022, 06:01
qwerty2 wrote:
20 Nov 2022, 10:01
Not surprised they want us working Sundays
Just seen about 10 Amazon vans going down the road in the last 5 minutes!!!
They will never get me to work even 1 Sunday.
I'm a Christian that takes God's 4th commandment very seriously.
Never understood that religious thing when it's s vicar's busiest day lol.
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Re: sundays

Post by Ad_bee »

rambo1 wrote:
24 Nov 2022, 21:55
DirtyHarry wrote:
22 Nov 2022, 06:01
qwerty2 wrote:
20 Nov 2022, 10:01
Not surprised they want us working Sundays
Just seen about 10 Amazon vans going down the road in the last 5 minutes!!!
They will never get me to work even 1 Sunday.
I'm a Christian that takes God's 4th commandment very seriously.
Never understood that religious thing when it's s vicar's busiest day lol.
That would be covered as an Act of Piety;

Charles I, 1625: An Acte for punishing of divers abuses co[m]mitted on the Lords day called Sunday.
https://www.british-history.ac.uk/statu ... m/vol5/p1a
Profanation of the Lord's Day;

No Meetings for Sports by People out of their own Parishes, nor Bearbaitings, &c. within them on the Lord's Day.; Penalty, 3 s. 4 d. leviable by Distress; or in Default, Punishment by the Stocks.; Limitation of Prosecution.; Proviso for Ecclesiastical Jurisdiction.; Continuance of Act.

FORASMUCH as there is nothing more acceptable to God then the true and sincere Service and worshipp of him according to his holy Will, and that the holy keeping of the Lords day, is a principall part of the true Service of God, which in very many places of this Realme hath beene and now is p[ro]faned and neglected by a disorderlie sort of people, in exercising and frequenting Bearebaiting, Bullbaiting, Enterludes, com[m]on Playes, and other unlawfull exercises and pastimes upon the Lords day; And for that many quarrells bloodshedds and other great inconveniences have growen by the resort and concourse of people going out of their owne Parishes to such disordered and unlawfull exercises and pastimes neglecting Divine service both in their owne Parishes and elswhere
,....continued etc etc

June 1657: An Act for the better observation of the Lords Day.
https://www.british-history.ac.uk/no-se ... p1162-1170
June, 1657

[26 June, 1657.]

What shall be adjudged prophanation of the Lords day.; Travelling.; Inkeepers &c. entertaining such.; Persons being in Taverns, Inns, &c.; Keeping open doors.; Dauncing, singing &c.; Milns.; Washing whiting. &c.; Burning Beet.; Gathering rates.; Melting tallow or wax.; Brewing, Baking,; Butchers and others exposing wares to sale.; Taylours. Barbers.; Fairs, Markets, Wakes, Revels, &c.; Walking in time of publiqueworship.; Travelling, carrying burdens or doing worldly labour.

Forasmuch as God hath appointed one day in Seven to be kept holy unto himself, and that in order thereunto man should abstain from the works of his ordinary calling, & hath intrusted the Magistrate amongst others, to take care thereof within his gates; and whereas it is found by daily experience, that the first day of the week (being the Lords day, and since the resurrection of Christ to be acknowledged the Christian Sabbath) is frequently neglected and prophaned to the dishonor of Christ, and Profession of the Gospel; therefore for the better Observation of the said Day, and preventing in some measure such Prophanation thereof for the future, Be it Enacted by His Highness the Lord Protector, and the Parliament of the Commonwealth of England, Scotland and Ireland, and the Dominions thereunto belonging, That whatsoever person or persons within this Commonwealth shall be found guilty according to this Act, of doing and committing the Offences hereafter mentioned upon the said Lords-Day, that is to say, Betwixt Twelve of the Clock on Saturday night, and Twelve of the Clock LordsDay night, shall be adjudged, deemed and taken to be guilty of Prophaning the Lords-Day; That is to say, Every person being a Waggoner, Carrier, Butcher, Higler, Drover, or any of their servants, travelling or coming by Land or Water, into his or their Inn, House or Lodging within the times aforesaid; And every InnKeeper, Victualler or Alehouse-Keeper, who shall Lodge and entertain any such Waggoner, Carrier, Butcher, Higler, Drover or their servants, coming and travelling as aforesaid; Every person using
,....continued etc etc
The Fourth Commandment in Exodus 20:8-11 (this is numbered as the Third Commandment by Catholics and Lutherans):
“Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the LORD your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.”
Wiki:
Shabbat (/ʃəˈbæt/, /ʃəˈbɑːt/, or /ʃəˈbʌt/; Hebrew: שַׁבָּת, romanized: Šabbāṯ, [ʃa'bat], lit. 'rest' or 'cessation')

Religion aside (as should be for our modern, sofisticated and oh-so-clever selves) the sabbath is just 'a day off for the wage-slaves of society which was generally seen as a good-thing for productivity and social health & wellbeing.

There are differing Abrahamic interpretations of which day should be the communal sabbath but in fact it is only mentioned as '1 day in 7' (should be a day-off) which leaves us free to choose (since we allegedly have 'Freedom of Conscience) our own sabbath....or none.

The choice is ours alone and individually:
DPD courier, 49, who was working seven-day weeks and up to 14 hours at a time ahead of Black Friday is found dead behind the wheel of his van
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... riday.html
....choice !.....ours to accept or deny.

Do we wish to deny the right to a sabbath?
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Re: sundays

Post by rambo1 »

Ad_bee wrote:
25 Nov 2022, 06:45
rambo1 wrote:
24 Nov 2022, 21:55
DirtyHarry wrote:
22 Nov 2022, 06:01
qwerty2 wrote:
20 Nov 2022, 10:01
Not surprised they want us working Sundays
Just seen about 10 Amazon vans going down the road in the last 5 minutes!!!
They will never get me to work even 1 Sunday.
I'm a Christian that takes God's 4th commandment very seriously.
Never understood that religious thing when it's s vicar's busiest day lol.
That would be covered as an Act of Piety;

Charles I, 1625: An Acte for punishing of divers abuses co[m]mitted on the Lords day called Sunday.
https://www.british-history.ac.uk/statu ... m/vol5/p1a
Profanation of the Lord's Day;

No Meetings for Sports by People out of their own Parishes, nor Bearbaitings, &c. within them on the Lord's Day.; Penalty, 3 s. 4 d. leviable by Distress; or in Default, Punishment by the Stocks.; Limitation of Prosecution.; Proviso for Ecclesiastical Jurisdiction.; Continuance of Act.

FORASMUCH as there is nothing more acceptable to God then the true and sincere Service and worshipp of him according to his holy Will, and that the holy keeping of the Lords day, is a principall part of the true Service of God, which in very many places of this Realme hath beene and now is p[ro]faned and neglected by a disorderlie sort of people, in exercising and frequenting Bearebaiting, Bullbaiting, Enterludes, com[m]on Playes, and other unlawfull exercises and pastimes upon the Lords day; And for that many quarrells bloodshedds and other great inconveniences have growen by the resort and concourse of people going out of their owne Parishes to such disordered and unlawfull exercises and pastimes neglecting Divine service both in their owne Parishes and elswhere
,....continued etc etc

June 1657: An Act for the better observation of the Lords Day.
https://www.british-history.ac.uk/no-se ... p1162-1170
June, 1657

[26 June, 1657.]

What shall be adjudged prophanation of the Lords day.; Travelling.; Inkeepers &c. entertaining such.; Persons being in Taverns, Inns, &c.; Keeping open doors.; Dauncing, singing &c.; Milns.; Washing whiting. &c.; Burning Beet.; Gathering rates.; Melting tallow or wax.; Brewing, Baking,; Butchers and others exposing wares to sale.; Taylours. Barbers.; Fairs, Markets, Wakes, Revels, &c.; Walking in time of publiqueworship.; Travelling, carrying burdens or doing worldly labour.

Forasmuch as God hath appointed one day in Seven to be kept holy unto himself, and that in order thereunto man should abstain from the works of his ordinary calling, & hath intrusted the Magistrate amongst others, to take care thereof within his gates; and whereas it is found by daily experience, that the first day of the week (being the Lords day, and since the resurrection of Christ to be acknowledged the Christian Sabbath) is frequently neglected and prophaned to the dishonor of Christ, and Profession of the Gospel; therefore for the better Observation of the said Day, and preventing in some measure such Prophanation thereof for the future, Be it Enacted by His Highness the Lord Protector, and the Parliament of the Commonwealth of England, Scotland and Ireland, and the Dominions thereunto belonging, That whatsoever person or persons within this Commonwealth shall be found guilty according to this Act, of doing and committing the Offences hereafter mentioned upon the said Lords-Day, that is to say, Betwixt Twelve of the Clock on Saturday night, and Twelve of the Clock LordsDay night, shall be adjudged, deemed and taken to be guilty of Prophaning the Lords-Day; That is to say, Every person being a Waggoner, Carrier, Butcher, Higler, Drover, or any of their servants, travelling or coming by Land or Water, into his or their Inn, House or Lodging within the times aforesaid; And every InnKeeper, Victualler or Alehouse-Keeper, who shall Lodge and entertain any such Waggoner, Carrier, Butcher, Higler, Drover or their servants, coming and travelling as aforesaid; Every person using
,....continued etc etc
The Fourth Commandment in Exodus 20:8-11 (this is numbered as the Third Commandment by Catholics and Lutherans):
“Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the LORD your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.”
Wiki:
Shabbat (/ʃəˈbæt/, /ʃəˈbɑːt/, or /ʃəˈbʌt/; Hebrew: שַׁבָּת, romanized: Šabbāṯ, [ʃa'bat], lit. 'rest' or 'cessation')

Religion aside (as should be for our modern, sofisticated and oh-so-clever selves) the sabbath is just 'a day off for the wage-slaves of society which was generally seen as a good-thing for productivity and social health & wellbeing.

There are differing Abrahamic interpretations of which day should be the communal sabbath but in fact it is only mentioned as '1 day in 7' (should be a day-off) which leaves us free to choose (since we allegedly have 'Freedom of Conscience) our own sabbath....or none.

The choice is ours alone and individually:
DPD courier, 49, who was working seven-day weeks and up to 14 hours at a time ahead of Black Friday is found dead behind the wheel of his van
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... riday.html
....choice !.....ours to accept or deny.

Do we wish to deny the right to a sabbath?
The DPD driver story is very sad but nobody puts a knife to your throat to do that many hrs. Plus side is he wasn't driving up a high street or on the motorway.