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[k979aaa]

Years ago before all your times we had a second delivery in between the first and second we had a meal relife break whatever you call it can they stop you using YOUR meal relife break. Well they have to give you a meal relife break by law it is yours you take it when you want the manager takes his her meal relife so you take yours!

[clashcityrocker]

Well they have to give you a meal relife break by law it is yours you take it when you want

That is incorrect.
the Working Time Directive states your manager can tell you when you can take your break.

[Acca Dacca]

Well they have to give you a meal relife break by law it is yours you take it when you want

That is incorrect.
the Working Time Directive states your manager can tell you when you can take your break.

However they cant tell you to take it at the start or end of your shift

So could a part timer with one half hour break in theory do what you suggest if they refused to take their break in the van?

[Cucumber]

If someone suddenly, for no apparent reason, wants to take their full break mid shift it would scream to management that they were trying to ‘eat up’ time and game the SISO system.
Surely?

[Acca Dacca]

If someone suddenly, for no apparent reason, wants to take their full break mid shift it would scream to management that they were trying to ‘eat up’ time and game the SISO system.
Surely?

Well obviously, the question is what they can do to stop it. Im assuming they would have some way of dealing with that ever happening but its an interesting question given up until now most of us took our last/only break off the end of our shift and left the building 20 mins early - that could be put to a stop with SISO if management insisted on no one leaving until the scheduled finish time.

They could be in a tricky situation where they cant force us to take a 20 break back at the office at the end of our shift but also cant really force us to take our break in the van.

Legally I dont actually know what they could do if everyone decided to return to the office halfway through the shift for either second break or full break ( depending on if FT or PT ) in the break room.

[Sputters]

With a week to go you would of thought all these questions would of been answered by now so everyone knows what you can or can't do regarding their hours .
But then again this is rm keeping everyone in the dark no suprise there .

[Mick100]

No it won’t effect your pay but they are watching every second you make to claw it back another day scan in an out at your times.
You’ve been warned

[k979aaa]

Well they have to give you a meal relife break by law it is yours you take it when you want

That is incorrect.
the Working Time Directive states your manager can tell you when you can take your break.

No they can not just explain your condition as I have said and you can take your meal relife.
Can be should be equidistant ie "the break is taken in one go somewhere in the middle of the day (not at the beginning or end)" So some s**t faced manager tells me you have had your meal relief at 90 minutes and says your good to go for 6 hours 30 minutes. Really

[Hyrrokkin]

We're starting to scan in and out next week what happens if you scan in late or scan out early does this affect your pay we can't get any proper answers from the management. Thanks

If you scan late/early RM Stormtroopers come looking for you...Emperor Darth Thompson will not accept any excuses !!

[clashcityrocker]

No they can not just explain your condition as I have said and you can take your meal relife.
Can be should be equidistant ie "the break is taken in one go somewhere in the middle of the day (not at the beginning or end)" So some s**t faced manager tells me you have had your meal relief at 90 minutes and says your good to go for 6 hours 30 minutes. Really

That unfortunately is the reality.

The meal relief should be scheduled as part of the revision process. We have collective bargaining,
The office should vote on the revision. That is democracy.
I have worked in offices where the full 40 minutes was taken before delivery. Others where it was split 20/20.
If that is what the office has voted for, that is what everyone does.
It isn't a matter of personal choice.

[k979aaa]

No they can not just explain your condition as I have said and you can take your meal relife.
Can be should be equidistant ie "the break is taken in one go somewhere in the middle of the day (not at the beginning or end)" So some s**t faced manager tells me you have had your meal relief at 90 minutes and says your good to go for 6 hours 30 minutes. Really

That unfortunately is the reality.

The meal relief should be scheduled as part of the revision process. We have collective bargaining,
The office should vote on the revision. That is democracy.
I have worked in offices where the full 40 minutes was taken before delivery. Others where it was split 20/20.
If that is what the office has voted for, that is what everyone does.
It isn't a matter of personal choice.

Years ago we had P318s but the process is anyone can take a meal relife whenever thing is no ones ever done it half way through delivery hence why it has never been tested as in my first post. Yet can any employer refuse you the facilities and amenities of the business if gainfully employed by them and if they do not have arrangements it is required for the relief of other matters can they stop you in conducting your bodily actions? Can you not return to the office which they did not envisage a time without public conveniences!

[clashcityrocker]

... but the process is anyone can take a meal relife whenever

Notwithstanding the rest of the bollocks you have written, this is utter bollocks.
Stop talking shite.

[k979aaa]

... but the process is anyone can take a meal relife whenever

Notwithstanding the rest of the bollocks you have written, this is utter bollocks.
Stop talking shite.

Nice so if a managers says jump out of the window well will you clash make my day!

[clashcityrocker]

https://www.gov.uk/rest-breaks-work/taking-breaks

Taking breaks
Employers can say when employees take rest breaks during work time as long as:

the break is taken in one go somewhere in the middle of the day (not at the beginning or end)
workers are allowed to spend it away from their desk or workstation (ie away from where they actually work)
It doesn’t count as a rest break if an employer says an employee should go back to work before their break is finished.

Unless a worker’s employment contract says so, they don’t have the right to:

take smoking breaks
get paid for rest breaks

[k979aaa]

https://www.gov.uk/rest-breaks-work/taking-breaks

Taking breaks
Employers can say when employees take rest breaks during work time as long as:

the break is taken in one go somewhere in the middle of the day (not at the beginning or end)
workers are allowed to spend it away from their desk or workstation (ie away from where they actually work)
It doesn’t count as a rest break if an employer says an employee should go back to work before their break is finished.

Unless a worker’s employment contract says so, they don’t have the right to:

take smoking breaks
get paid for rest breaks

One Funny copied that myself well where is the middle of the day?
Two can they really stop you having a s**t?
Thirdly can any employer enforce all this if everybody does it?