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Voluntary redundancy info

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ConeHater
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Re: Voluntary redundancy info

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If Royal Mail think that the threat of 10,000 redundancies is going to frighten anyone, I think that at least 30,000 would bite their hand off at the opportunity . . .
2chorizon
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Re: Voluntary redundancy info

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ConeHater wrote:
15 Oct 2022, 16:14
If Royal Mail think that the threat of 10,000 redundancies is going to frighten anyone, I think that at least 30,000 would bite their hand off at the opportunity . . .
Not if they aint paying the full VR levels.
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Re: Voluntary redundancy info

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2chorizon wrote:
15 Oct 2022, 20:43
ConeHater wrote:
15 Oct 2022, 16:14
If Royal Mail think that the threat of 10,000 redundancies is going to frighten anyone, I think that at least 30,000 would bite their hand off at the opportunity . . .
Not if they aint paying the full VR levels.
Still feel loads would leave if they were already thinking about leaving as we're already losing one a month form our small to medium sized DO
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Re: Voluntary redundancy info

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S.T is talking out of his ass again, we need more people, not less. Our office is short of 20 staff now, and we have had days worth of backlogs since COVID supposedly ended, that was before the strikes hit. This is just scare tactics, from a useless bonehead.
If it was true it would be because he thinks he could get away with replacing current workers with cheaper ones, and I think that would be an illegal use of the redundancy process because those roles are therefore not redundant. He probably hopes he could entice some to VR to at least replace some staff with cheaper alternatives, but he obviously wants to even do that on the cheap, and not pay historical rates. In which case he would not get many takers.
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Re: Voluntary redundancy info

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Depends how many days a week he's planning on delivering mail when the USO almost inevitably goes.
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Re: Voluntary redundancy info

Post by datasaint »

rambo1 wrote:
15 Oct 2022, 22:09
Depends how many days a week he's planning on delivering mail when the USO almost inevitably goes.
My thoughts as well. If they can demonstrate big losses then maybe they can get a 3 day a week USO.
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Re: Voluntary redundancy info

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Its mad that he not only threatens redundancies but then says pay outs wont be as high as the agreed, usual amount. Coz they cant afford it.

You can absolutely 100% guarantee that when it comes to his pay off once he inevitably gets pushed out soon, it will be mind boggling humongous.
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Re: Voluntary redundancy info

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norm wrote:
16 Oct 2022, 06:14
rambo1 wrote:
15 Oct 2022, 22:09
Depends how many days a week he's planning on delivering mail when the USO almost inevitably goes.
My thoughts as well. If they can demonstrate big losses then maybe they can get a 3 day a week USO.
Thompson has already publicly stated that in the long term he wants the USO to only be 3 days a week. It’s also became apparent he wants all large parcels delivered from the hub offices by owner drivers employed on new contracts. These are plans that will make the 10,000 job losses look like a drop in the ocean and yet he has the gall to try to twist the narrative to make it look like it’s the actions of the union and union members that is threatening jobs.
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Re: Voluntary redundancy info

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mjd24 wrote:
16 Oct 2022, 10:32
Its mad that he not only threatens redundancies but then says pay outs wont be as high as the agreed, usual amount. Coz they cant afford it.

You can absolutely 100% guarantee that when it comes to his pay off once he inevitably gets pushed out soon, it will be mind boggling humongous.
Yep not the first time he has jumped ship well I am not stopping him he should just go ahead and : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwYN7mTi6HM
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Re: Voluntary redundancy info

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Heard today from rep Thomson and RM
Only wanting to pay out 1 week for every year in employment
That would only be 33 weeks for me
Nowhere near enough
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Re: Voluntary redundancy info

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hans solo wrote:
17 Oct 2022, 16:44
Heard today from rep Thomson and RM
Only wanting to pay out 1 week for every year in employment
That would only be 33 weeks for me
Nowhere near enough
Laughable.
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Re: Voluntary redundancy info

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hans solo wrote:
17 Oct 2022, 16:44
Heard today from rep Thomson and RM
Only wanting to pay out 1 week for every year in employment
That would only be 33 weeks for me
Nowhere near enough
Well ST arse is so tight diamonds come out every time he has a s**t!
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Re: Voluntary redundancy info

Post by NWpostie »

They would struggle to get volunteers at 33 week payment never mind less, that's just over half a year pay, you won't survive long on that while job hunting.

Especially when you knew you used to get 104 weeks max, no matter how crap a job is, the money comes first, bills don't pay themselves.
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thefox
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Re: Voluntary redundancy info

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hans solo wrote:
17 Oct 2022, 16:44
Heard today from rep Thomson and RM
Only wanting to pay out 1 week for every year in employment
That would only be 33 weeks for me
Nowhere near enough
Is it not week and a half pay for anyone over 40 im sure someone posted it up here i think that was the minimum he could pay
RobertT
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Re: Voluntary redundancy info

Post by RobertT »

thefox wrote:
18 Oct 2022, 12:29
Is it not week and a half pay for anyone over 40 im sure someone posted it up here i think that was the minimum he could pay
There are basically two forms of redundancy payments:

1. Statutory Redundancy – which is:

Half a week’s pay for each full year you were under 22
One week’s pay for each full year you were 22 or older, but under 41
One and half week’s pay for each full year you were 41 or older

Length of service is capped at 20 years.
Maximum payout = £17,130

Click here to find out what how much statutory redundancy you might get:
https://www.gov.uk/calculate-your-redundancy-pay

2. Voluntary Redundancy – which is a figure ultimately decided by your employer and is usually higher than statutory.

RM's MTSF agreement for VR used a similar formula as above but was more generous, with a maximum payout of 104 weeks pay.

They have said that will no longer apply!

For reference, the MTSF ready reckoner for VR is here: viewtopic.php?f=36&t=74407 although it's dated 2010 and there were changes a few years later which meant some elements were no longer valid.

There have been comments suggesting RM are going to offer 1 week per year of service. But the literature the company have released only says they'll tell us more in December.
I haven't seen anything official from the CWU at all.

Here's what RM have to say: https://www.myroyalmail.com/rm/transformationupdate
Links to all RM pension related websites are here