So basically it will be used to produce any crap figures RM want to use when trying to introduce annualised hours ? .... and the only Up Side that I could see in the original proposal .... Stopping "The Usual Suspects" from taking the piss and finishing early EVERYDAY ... can easily be bypassed by calling whatever it is "Agreed Overtime" FFS: Another great step for Royal Mail .... Another Nail in the Coffin of the Job!Dexydog wrote: ↑30 Sep 2022, 14:46Our COM said the other day they are being rolled out across deliveries from end October.
Using your ID card at the entrance to building.
Signing in desk will be gone.
He was quick to say any overtime agreed with him will not affect what time you sign out.
Tumbleweed as you could clearly hear everyone's head ticking away.
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CLOCKING IN/OUT MACHINES GONE ?
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Dorset Plodder
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Re: CLOCKING IN/OUT MACHINES GONE ?
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Like all Wage Slaves, he had two crosses to bear: The people he worked for and the people he worked with! (Stephen Vizinczey.)
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Dexydog
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Re: CLOCKING IN/OUT MACHINES GONE ?
To be honest I think the COM was thinking of ways he can get round it.
He's not stupid, and knows full well people won't do overtime unless they can make a bit of time out of it.
Basically his job will be made impossible if he can't make it work for everyone, including him.
It will be the usual- his superiors looking at data to add work, and him hiding all the data to ensure his office is cleared.
No amount of SISO will change that equation.
He's not stupid, and knows full well people won't do overtime unless they can make a bit of time out of it.
Basically his job will be made impossible if he can't make it work for everyone, including him.
It will be the usual- his superiors looking at data to add work, and him hiding all the data to ensure his office is cleared.
No amount of SISO will change that equation.
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aiden01
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Re: CLOCKING IN/OUT MACHINES GONE ?
Have them in my mc an we still sign in an out nearly a year later.Dexydog wrote: ↑30 Sep 2022, 14:46Our COM said the other day they are being rolled out across deliveries from end October.
Using your ID card at the entrance to building.
Signing in desk will be gone.
He was quick to say any overtime agreed with him will not affect what time you sign out.
Tumbleweed as you could clearly hear everyone's head ticking away.
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SpacePhoenix
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Re: CLOCKING IN/OUT MACHINES GONE ?
At some point I don't think your MC will be given a choice, you'll be made to use them. They get monitored by management above MCM levelaiden01 wrote: ↑30 Sep 2022, 20:38Have them in my mc an we still sign in an out nearly a year later.Dexydog wrote: ↑30 Sep 2022, 14:46Our COM said the other day they are being rolled out across deliveries from end October.
Using your ID card at the entrance to building.
Signing in desk will be gone.
He was quick to say any overtime agreed with him will not affect what time you sign out.
Tumbleweed as you could clearly hear everyone's head ticking away.
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Tman
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aiden01
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Re: CLOCKING IN/OUT MACHINES GONE ?
We do use them but still have to sign in an out ffs. as for being monitored i doubt it very much still people coming in late going home early an have'nt heard of anybody being disciplined.SpacePhoenix wrote: ↑30 Sep 2022, 22:04At some point I don't think your MC will be given a choice, you'll be made to use them. They get monitored by management above MCM levelaiden01 wrote: ↑30 Sep 2022, 20:38Have them in my mc an we still sign in an out nearly a year later.Dexydog wrote: ↑30 Sep 2022, 14:46Our COM said the other day they are being rolled out across deliveries from end October.
Using your ID card at the entrance to building.
Signing in desk will be gone.
He was quick to say any overtime agreed with him will not affect what time you sign out.
Tumbleweed as you could clearly hear everyone's head ticking away.
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payetwhu
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Re: CLOCKING IN/OUT MACHINES GONE ?
Been told coming in end of October.
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76robbo
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Re: CLOCKING IN/OUT MACHINES GONE ?
signing in desk going whats the poor manager going to lean on all morning 
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pieoftheday
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Re: CLOCKING IN/OUT MACHINES GONE ?
Just started installing them at our DO
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SpacePhoenix
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Re: CLOCKING IN/OUT MACHINES GONE ?
Are they installing PDA based ones or ones like what we use in MCs?
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Duesouth
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Re: CLOCKING IN/OUT MACHINES GONE ?
I'm all for everyone SISO digitally but I think this could work in favour or against us depending on how everyone works within the office.
If you have an office of runners, people taking short cuts, not taking breaks, hours could be taken out of the office leading to job losses.
On the other hand you could have an office doing everything by the book, taking breaks, doing vehicle checks, not crossing over people's gardens and slowing down. I don't condone the last part but if they want to play that game of cat and mouse then the business better watch what there doing because there going to p*** a lot of people off.
If you have an office of runners, people taking short cuts, not taking breaks, hours could be taken out of the office leading to job losses.
On the other hand you could have an office doing everything by the book, taking breaks, doing vehicle checks, not crossing over people's gardens and slowing down. I don't condone the last part but if they want to play that game of cat and mouse then the business better watch what there doing because there going to p*** a lot of people off.
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pieoftheday
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Re: CLOCKING IN/OUT MACHINES GONE ?
Not sure, but they had installed holding docs that looked like they'd accommodate pdaSpacePhoenix wrote: ↑02 Oct 2022, 12:29Are they installing PDA based ones or ones like what we use in MCs?
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SpacePhoenix
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Re: CLOCKING IN/OUT MACHINES GONE ?
Don't know about deliveries (but I'd expect it''ll end up being the same), RM are planning on bringing in individual performance standardsDuesouth wrote: ↑02 Oct 2022, 13:09I'm all for everyone SISO digitally but I think this could work in favour or against us depending on how everyone works within the office.
If you have an office of runners, people taking short cuts, not taking breaks, hours could be taken out of the office leading to job losses.
On the other hand you could have an office doing everything by the book, taking breaks, doing vehicle checks, not crossing over people's gardens and slowing down. I don't condone the last part but if they want to play that game of cat and mouse then the business better watch what there doing because there going to p*** a lot of people off.
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POSTMAN
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Re: CLOCKING IN/OUT MACHINES GONE ?
Simon Says
We are planning to be everywhere - by end October 2022.
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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Cucumber
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Re: CLOCKING IN/OUT MACHINES GONE ?
Are we all going to be issued with new ID'S?
Also, are we solely responsible to can ourselves in/out, similar to van checks etc.
Also, are we solely responsible to can ourselves in/out, similar to van checks etc.
