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Strike 16/17 February called off
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taurus88
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Re: Strike 16/17 February called off
Oh look, for the umpteenth time the union are made to look like bumpkins that have fallen drunkenly into their first rodeo. It’s not the mistakes that irk me so much as the inability to build momentum. Every small victory that RM achieve is one that gnaws at the doubts of some of the less militant members. As the political landscape of this country has proven, disputes and conflict are no longer about truth, nor even lies. They’re about point-scoring and oneupmanship, they’ve been turned into football matches where each side fights for points, and each side has a partisan following. Every time RM score a goal, a sliver of morale is eroded.
CWU needs better people advising it while the mistakes column currently greatly exceeds the number of victories that we, the members, can count. And of course, I would always vote yes, regardless. That doesn’t mean that I hold the top-brass of the union in any great esteem.
CWU needs better people advising it while the mistakes column currently greatly exceeds the number of victories that we, the members, can count. And of course, I would always vote yes, regardless. That doesn’t mean that I hold the top-brass of the union in any great esteem.
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Eduardo
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Re: Strike 16/17 February called off
The fight eventually caught up with Ali and killed him.denhamhoop wrote: ↑07 Feb 2023, 13:08Yep pity that Royal Mail are Muhammad Ali and the CWU are George Foreman and we will fall over in the 8th round from exhaustion
Foreman however is still healthy and enjoying life or so I believe.
I hope there's a message in there somewhere for us.
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cod
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Cofipostie1
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Re: Strike 16/17 February called off
Great speech Ricky and your point is to trust Royal Mail and not our union leaders,when will you understand you have lost your workforce a long time ago.
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Villadaft
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Re: Strike 16/17 February called off
What speech?
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mafiaman
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Re: Strike 16/17 February called off
Listen I'm not happy with the communication coming from the cwu and from what I've heard RM implementations can't be legal,but please get off Dave's and Andy's backs they are doing the best they can,not only are they dealing with a corrupt board ,but we have to deal with a corrupt government that don't care about the working class.and other unions are in the same boat .when Dave and Andy do speak to us you can see how hard they are working to get us a reasonable deal.they shattered.If we had more people like ward,fury,lynch and Dempsey on the boards and even in government this country would be a better place.and they have great fighters surnames aswell
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denhamhoop
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Re: Strike 16/17 February called off
Personally thought it was more his 3rd battle with Smokin' Joe in the Thriller in Manilla that did for AliEduardo wrote: ↑07 Feb 2023, 13:16The fight eventually caught up with Ali and killed him.denhamhoop wrote: ↑07 Feb 2023, 13:08Yep pity that Royal Mail are Muhammad Ali and the CWU are George Foreman and we will fall over in the 8th round from exhaustion
Foreman however is still healthy and enjoying life or so I believe.
I hope there's a message in there somewhere for us.
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Surreypostie
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Re: Strike 16/17 February called off
How can their implementations not be legal? We may not agree with their implementations but if they were illegal we wouldn't be striking, we would be in court putting a stop to it. People have to realise, so long as they do not break the law they can pretty much do as they want. All wd can do is take action and hope they change direction.mafiaman wrote: ↑07 Feb 2023, 14:28Listen I'm not happy with the communication coming from the cwu and from what I've heard RM implementations can't be legal,but please get off Dave's and Andy's backs they are doing the best they can,not only are they dealing with a corrupt board ,but we have to deal with a corrupt government that don't care about the working class.and other unions are in the same boat .when Dave and Andy do speak to us you can see how hard they are working to get us a reasonable deal.they shattered.If we had more people like ward,fury,lynch and Dempsey on the boards and even in government this country would be a better place.and they have great fighters surnames aswell
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CharlesG
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Re: Strike 16/17 February called off
Union had legal advice stating they could defend the legal challenge , however with anti trade union laws being what they are it is deemed a risk not worth taking.
RM have stated they have now gone into Dispute Resolution Process regarding revisions, so does this mean there can be no strike action for a month whilst talks take place and resolutions are not agreed?
RM have stated they have now gone into Dispute Resolution Process regarding revisions, so does this mean there can be no strike action for a month whilst talks take place and resolutions are not agreed?
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post6675
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postslippete
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Re: Strike 16/17 February called off
CharlesG wrote: ↑07 Feb 2023, 16:09Union had legal advice stating they could defend the legal challenge , however with anti trade union laws being what they are it is deemed a risk not worth taking.
RM have stated they have now gone into Dispute Resolution Process regarding revisions, so does this mean there can be no strike action for a month whilst talks take place and resolutions are not agreed?
Thats the way that I read it. However, the CWU have said that they are not against the revisions per se - just that Royal Mail are forcing through revisions without their involvement.
Revisions were not originally on Royal Mail's agenda to start with either. It was a proposal that got tacked on after the company decided to concede on no Compulsory Redundancies in the course of negotiations. Well, of course they would as it was all just a big publicity stunt.
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Halfhappy
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Re: Strike 16/17 February called off
There was no open net, and they haven't scored. Out of desperation RM threatened to use the courts to silence the members and prevent the right to withdraw our labour. Remember that. ST is trying to stop your voice being heard.
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post6675
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Re: Strike 16/17 February called off
I would disagree. There is a lot riding on the reballot and they have just made CWU look inept. They want people questioning the union and not votingHalfhappy wrote: ↑07 Feb 2023, 17:23There was no open net, and they haven't scored. Out of desperation RM threatened to use the courts to silence the members and prevent the right to withdraw our labour. Remember that. ST is trying to stop your voice being heard.
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Halfhappy
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Re: Strike 16/17 February called off
The inept thing would've been allowing this challenge to go to court, and risking the upcoming ballot. For as long as the law is the way it is, there is always going to be these challenges.
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clashcityrocker
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Re: Strike 16/17 February called off
I thought yearly revisions were something we agreed to under Agenda for Change.postslippete wrote: ↑07 Feb 2023, 17:19
Revisions were not originally on Royal Mail's agenda to start with either. It was a proposal that got tacked on after the company decided to concede on no Compulsory Redundancies in the course of negotiations. Well, of course they would as it was all just a big publicity stunt.
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