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RMCtv : Flexible hours - your questions answered plus important detailed attachments
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mistheword
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Re: RMCtv : Flexible hours - your questions answered plus important detailed attachments
How would this crazy idea work in a mail centre where the reliant on agency staff to clear every single day of the year not just peak months? .It’s almost impossible to use odd leave days as it is unless there is a vacancy in your leave group.Another idea from from Royal Mail that might work in 10% of offices but the other 90% absolute chaos.
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Minischoles
- ROYAL MAIL CUSTOMER SERVICE
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Re: RMCtv : Flexible hours - your questions answered plus important detailed attachments
I honestly think they haven't even thought of other parts of the business, I doubt even Simon has thought how it will work in MCs or any of the back office roles.
For example, how does it work in CS? we don't really have quiet periods or times hours can be banked and it's been understaff (like every CS department is) for years.
Even now, which is the 'quiet period' for CS, the phones have massive daily queues and over Xmas you might have hundreds in the queue that just get cut off at the current end time, and the less said about the email queue over Xmas the better - last year for instance they mass closed the entire queue multiple times it got so big (tens of thousands of emails).
It feels like they want to force this onto deliveries and then they'll 'realise' its unworkable for every other unit and never extend it.
For example, how does it work in CS? we don't really have quiet periods or times hours can be banked and it's been understaff (like every CS department is) for years.
Even now, which is the 'quiet period' for CS, the phones have massive daily queues and over Xmas you might have hundreds in the queue that just get cut off at the current end time, and the less said about the email queue over Xmas the better - last year for instance they mass closed the entire queue multiple times it got so big (tens of thousands of emails).
It feels like they want to force this onto deliveries and then they'll 'realise' its unworkable for every other unit and never extend it.
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sindba
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Re: RMCtv : Flexible hours - your questions answered plus important detailed attachments
"Si" hasn't thought it through at all.Minischoles wrote: ↑30 Aug 2022, 17:13I honestly think they haven't even thought of other parts of the business, I doubt even Simon has thought how it will work in MCs or any of the back office roles.
For example, how does it work in CS? we don't really have quiet periods or times hours can be banked and it's been understaff (like every CS department is) for years.
Even now, which is the 'quiet period' for CS, the phones have massive daily queues and over Xmas you might have hundreds in the queue that just get cut off at the current end time, and the less said about the email queue over Xmas the better - last year for instance they mass closed the entire queue multiple times it got so big (tens of thousands of emails).
It feels like they want to force this onto deliveries and then they'll 'realise' its unworkable for every other unit and never extend it.
He's just got it into his thick head that the workforce is a problem to be solved, we're all lazy malingerers walking slowly and getting paid for loads of unworked hours. This is just his way of screwing us over.
It hasn't occured to him that the company is run by completely useless failures. Because he is one.
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POSTMAN
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Re: RMCtv : Flexible hours - your questions answered plus important detailed attachments
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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Acca Dacca
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Re: RMCtv : Flexible hours - your questions answered plus important detailed attachments
Ive seen this a few times but everyone seems to be misreading it, at least to my eyes
''Its not so extreme to say you CANT deliver in the dark'' surely means hes saying we shouldnt be delivering in the dark
If it was 'its not so extreme to say you CAN deliver in the dark' that would mean he thinks we can
for example
Person A ''Its too extreme to say you cant deliver in the dark''
Person B ''No, its not too extreme to say you cant deliver in the dark''
Person B is saying we shouldnt be delivering in the dark, and thats what the caption says in the picture above
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
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yellowbelly
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Re: RMCtv : Flexible hours - your questions answered plus important detailed attachments
The screen shot with the single text box is misleading, what he says before that (and I'm paraphrasing)Acca Dacca wrote: ↑30 Aug 2022, 19:13Ive seen this a few times but everyone seems to be misreading it, at least to my eyes
''Its not so extreme to say you CANT deliver in the dark'' surely means hes saying we shouldnt be delivering in the dark
If it was 'its not so extreme to say you CAN deliver in the dark' that would mean he thinks we can
for example
Person A ''Its too extreme to say you cant deliver in the dark''
Person B ''No, its not too extreme to say you cant deliver in the dark''
Person B is saying we shouldnt be delivering in the dark, and thats what the caption says in the picture above
is that the problems with delivering in the dark
,But it's not so extreme to say that you can't deliver in the dark
he further goes on to say we've done it before.
So he IS saying 'we' CAN deliver in the dark. He means the problems with delivering in the dark are not so extreme
to say you can't deliver in the dark.
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Acca Dacca
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Re: RMCtv : Flexible hours - your questions answered plus important detailed attachments
That makes more sense 'the problems are not so extreme that it means you say you cant deliver in the dark'
I had just seen that picture and text
Thanks for explaining
I had just seen that picture and text
Thanks for explaining
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
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Woody Guthrie
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Re: RMCtv : Flexible hours - your questions answered plus important detailed attachments
I'm getting really tired of this s**t.he further goes on to say we've done it before.
If you can't tell the difference in the dangers of delivering in the morning in the dark and delivering at night in the dark just shut the f**k up.
Only dead fish follow the current
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sindba
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Re: RMCtv : Flexible hours - your questions answered plus important detailed attachments
A whole bundle:Woody Guthrie wrote: ↑30 Aug 2022, 21:03I'm getting really tired of this s**t.he further goes on to say we've done it before.
If you can't tell the difference in the dangers of delivering in the morning in the dark and delivering at night in the dark just shut the f**k up.
"No access. Address unreadable due to dark and nutters with knives on estate"
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RTP
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Re: RMCtv : Flexible hours - your questions answered plus important detailed attachments
Really don't understand the need to get so stressed about all this shite. No union would ever agree to it, so be grateful of your union representation.
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k979aaa
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Re: RMCtv : Flexible hours - your questions answered plus important detailed attachments
If they cannot abide by agreements how can anyone trust them to get their hours right and honor it as they break every agreement with impunity at the moment!
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SMS1969
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Pidleypoo
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Re: RMCtv : Flexible hours - your questions answered plus important detailed attachments
They can’t bring this in by ia because it requires a change of contract.
Fire and rehire would cost them hundreds of millions , if not billions for a variety of reasons.
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Pidleypoo
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Re: RMCtv : Flexible hours - your questions answered plus important detailed attachments
Pidleypoo wrote: ↑31 Aug 2022, 10:09They can’t bring this in by ea because it requires a change of contract.
Fire and rehire would cost them hundreds of millions , if not billions for a variety of reasons.
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POSTMAN
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Re: RMCtv : Flexible hours - your questions answered plus important detailed attachments
Thank you Yellow, If you watch the whole video from workplace it makes sense, I obviously didn't realise that the screenshot could be taken different ways.yellowbelly wrote: ↑30 Aug 2022, 19:23The screen shot with the single text box is misleading, what he says before that (and I'm paraphrasing)Acca Dacca wrote: ↑30 Aug 2022, 19:13Ive seen this a few times but everyone seems to be misreading it, at least to my eyes
''Its not so extreme to say you CANT deliver in the dark'' surely means hes saying we shouldnt be delivering in the dark
If it was 'its not so extreme to say you CAN deliver in the dark' that would mean he thinks we can
for example
Person A ''Its too extreme to say you cant deliver in the dark''
Person B ''No, its not too extreme to say you cant deliver in the dark''
Person B is saying we shouldnt be delivering in the dark, and thats what the caption says in the picture above
is that the problems with delivering in the dark,But it's not so extreme to say that you can't deliver in the dark
he further goes on to say we've done it before.
https://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/images/simon-eric.jpg
So he IS saying 'we' CAN deliver in the dark. He means the problems with delivering in the dark are not so extreme
to say you can't deliver in the dark.
Sorry Acca and any others who were confused.
Either way, the business has no problem with posties delivering in the dark.

#He has the right amount of screenshots-just not the right amount of words in them
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.