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mjd24
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Re: Deliveries about to be "Analised"

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Fannybaws wrote:
25 Aug 2022, 12:32
mjd24 wrote:
24 Aug 2022, 18:47
Fannybaws wrote:
24 Aug 2022, 18:20
Woody Guthrie wrote:
24 Aug 2022, 15:51
Wake up and do the job properly.
This is about introducing "gold standard" performance standards.

I seriously doubt doing the job properly is the issue, in fact it's probably those very people he intends to target with this.
Yes because it's the runners that he's using as the "gold standard" so if everyone was to do the job properly that would go a long way to sorting that problem out.

Need more people in this company to just "quietly quit" and stop doing work for free.
This is one of the hardest jobs to “quietly quit”. Its not as if it goes unnoticed when we cut off. Its not the same as working in some office where your work is an ongoing thing and theres not a set amount of work that HAS to be got through that day.
Cutting off procedure.

And I referenced QQ as just an alternative way of saying work to rule or simply do the job as you're supposed to do it.
Cutting off procedure = huge amount of stress for some of us.
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Post by sindba »

I just can't believe he's talking about performance standards for walking speed!

The bloke is off his bleedin rocker.
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Re: Deliveries about to be "Analised"

Post by LaggyBand »

They adore Amazon, and we’ve all seen that documentary of a slave running around the warehouse with pissy legs as his scanner beeps relentlessly at him.

As soon as we got PDAs we should have seen this coming.
Edward Hunter
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Re: Deliveries about to be "Analised"

Post by Edward Hunter »

Cutting off procedure = huge amount of stress for some of us.
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Dont know why? thousands of us do it practically every day around the country. And as you know you are an idiot for killing yourself and making the job look doable. Your reward will be more hours cut from your office. :roll:
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Re: Deliveries about to be "Analised"

Post by Fannybaws »

mjd24 wrote:
25 Aug 2022, 13:07
Fannybaws wrote:
25 Aug 2022, 12:32
mjd24 wrote:
24 Aug 2022, 18:47
Fannybaws wrote:
24 Aug 2022, 18:20
Woody Guthrie wrote:
24 Aug 2022, 15:51
Wake up and do the job properly.
This is about introducing "gold standard" performance standards.

I seriously doubt doing the job properly is the issue, in fact it's probably those very people he intends to target with this.
Yes because it's the runners that he's using as the "gold standard" so if everyone was to do the job properly that would go a long way to sorting that problem out.

Need more people in this company to just "quietly quit" and stop doing work for free.
This is one of the hardest jobs to “quietly quit”. Its not as if it goes unnoticed when we cut off. Its not the same as working in some office where your work is an ongoing thing and theres not a set amount of work that HAS to be got through that day.
Cutting off procedure.

And I referenced QQ as just an alternative way of saying work to rule or simply do the job as you're supposed to do it.
Cutting off procedure = huge amount of stress for some of us.
Been there, done that and got the t-shirt and refused to be bullied and intimidated by incompetent managers. There comes a point where people have to make a decision, keep doing it and accept what they are trying to impose and even more bullying or stand up and push back and try to make your own working life more bearable.
mjd24
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Re: Deliveries about to be "Analised"

Post by mjd24 »

Edward Hunter wrote:
25 Aug 2022, 20:42
Cutting off procedure = huge amount of stress for some of us.
Dont know why? thousands of us do it practically every day around the country. And as you know you are an idiot for killing yourself and making the job look doable. Your reward will be more hours cut from your office. :roll:
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I run around maybe 5-10% of the time.

I cut off maybe 5-10% of the time.

Idiot ✔️
kookoo32
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Re: Deliveries about to be "Analised"

Post by kookoo32 »

Edward Hunter wrote:
25 Aug 2022, 20:42
Cutting off procedure = huge amount of stress for some of us.
Dont know why? thousands of us do it practically every day around the country. And as you know you are an idiot for killing yourself and making the job look doable. Your reward will be more hours cut from your office. :roll:
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Cutting off is easy. Once you've done it the first time it's like water off a duck's back. However I do think some of the old-timers that were always used to completing find it more difficult to cut off. Me, I'm an old-timer (25+years) but I don't give a ####. I've recently learned of the term 'quiet quitting' and honestly I think I've been doing this the last 7/8 years. I just didn't know it had a name :chuckle
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Post by Woody Guthrie »

Cutting off is easy. Once you've done it the first time it's like water off a duck's back.
One of the problems we have on this site is that people tend to project their own position and the position of their office onto the entire network.

Every office is different.
Every manager is different.
The level of support from colleagues and the union is different.
Every member's threshold for stress is different.
Everyone's home life and the impact that has on them is different.

Over the years I've worked with managers who were a pushover and I've worked with managers who wouldn't think twice about hiding a special in your locker if you even thought about cutting off.

I've worked with colleagues that would magically appear beside you if managers gave you a hard time and I've worked with shoe starers.

I hope cutting off continues to be easy for you personally but that's all it is... an entirely personal experience.
Only dead fish follow the current
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Re: Deliveries about to be "Analised"

Post by k979aaa »

kookoo32 wrote:
26 Aug 2022, 15:15
Edward Hunter wrote:
25 Aug 2022, 20:42
Cutting off procedure = huge amount of stress for some of us.
Dont know why? thousands of us do it practically every day around the country. And as you know you are an idiot for killing yourself and making the job look doable. Your reward will be more hours cut from your office. :roll:
Cutting off is easy. Once you've done it the first time it's like water off a duck's back. However I do think some of the old-timers that were always used to completing find it more difficult to cut off. Me, I'm an old-timer (25+years) but I don't give a ####. I've recently learned of the term 'quiet quitting' and honestly I think I've been doing this the last 7/8 years. I just didn't know it had a name :chuckle
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Cut off is bring it back done this many a time a few times we negotiated a few loops of us and that would be another term and other times we did not do lapsing/absorption/Consolidation but there are many terms but only so many hours in the day, At the end of the day if it cannot be done it will not be done it is for a manager to do deal with for what is their title and pay for!
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Re: Deliveries about to be "Analised"

Post by kookoo32 »

Woody Guthrie wrote:
26 Aug 2022, 15:27
Cutting off is easy. Once you've done it the first time it's like water off a duck's back.
One of the problems we have on this site is that people tend to project their own position and the position of their office onto the entire network.

Every office is different.
Every manager is different.
The level of support from colleagues and the union is different.
Every member's threshold for stress is different.
Everyone's home life and the impact that has on them is different.

Over the years I've worked with managers who were a pushover and I've worked with managers who wouldn't think twice about hiding a special in your locker if you even thought about cutting off.

I've worked with colleagues that would magically appear beside you if managers gave you a hard time and I've worked with shoe starers.

I hope cutting off continues to be easy for you personally but that's all it is... an entirely personal experience.
I get what you're saying here and sorry to have offended anyone. Like I said in my post I have 'quiet quit' the job so maybe I do find it easier.
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Re: Deliveries about to be "Analised"

Post by norris9 »

kookoo32 wrote:
26 Aug 2022, 15:44
I get what you're saying here and sorry to have offended anyone. Like I said in my post I have 'quiet quit' the job so maybe I do find it easier.
Why should people go above and beyond anyway. It's a mug's game. Even when you go above and beyond the managers will try to take advantage of you some day, some how, some way.

When they do this I think 'why am I essentially doing this manager a favour!, they just tried to shaft me'.

I do not go above and beyond anymore due to this. I have had several blatant times where a manager has messed me around one way or another. I am not going to help anybody like that by going above and beyond.

You treat me well, I will do well by you. You treat me like dirt, I will cut off.....

and guess what, it isn't your line manager treating you all like dirt right now - it's the whole company, it's the CEO, it's the fat cats.....

Why would you go above and beyond for Simon Thompson?
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Post by k979aaa »

Is Simple Simon at the talks or is he so constipated by his workload he does not give a crap!
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Re: Deliveries about to be "Analised"

Post by kookoo32 »

norris9 wrote:
26 Aug 2022, 16:09
kookoo32 wrote:
26 Aug 2022, 15:44
I get what you're saying here and sorry to have offended anyone. Like I said in my post I have 'quiet quit' the job so maybe I do find it easier.
Why should people go above and beyond anyway. It's a mug's game. Even when you go above and beyond the managers will try to take advantage of you some day, some how, some way.

When they do this I think 'why am I essentially doing this manager a favour!, they just tried to shaft me'.

I do not go above and beyond anymore due to this. I have had several blatant times where a manager has messed me around one way or another. I am not going to help anybody like that by going above and beyond.

You treat me well, I will do well by you. You treat me like dirt, I will cut off.....

and guess what, it isn't your line manager treating you all like dirt right now - it's the whole company, it's the CEO, it's the fat cats.....

Why would you go above and beyond for Simon Thompson?
I think some are still in the mind-set that they do it for the customer as well. For instance if you've been on a round for years and know the customer you might feel bad about leaving behind their stuff. The harsh reality is the customer more often that not doesn't care about you. All most of them care about is getting their parcel. I bet there are still customer complaints this/next week despite them being on our side in the strike.

The business gets no favours from me, not since I had a very public falling out with the managers on the shop floor one morning (the area manager was even phoned :chuckle ). I have a start time and a finish time.
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Re: Deliveries about to be "Analised"

Post by k979aaa »

kookoo32 wrote:
26 Aug 2022, 16:35
norris9 wrote:
26 Aug 2022, 16:09
kookoo32 wrote:
26 Aug 2022, 15:44
I get what you're saying here and sorry to have offended anyone. Like I said in my post I have 'quiet quit' the job so maybe I do find it easier.
Why should people go above and beyond anyway. It's a mug's game. Even when you go above and beyond the managers will try to take advantage of you some day, some how, some way.

When they do this I think 'why am I essentially doing this manager a favour!, they just tried to shaft me'.

I do not go above and beyond anymore due to this. I have had several blatant times where a manager has messed me around one way or another. I am not going to help anybody like that by going above and beyond.

You treat me well, I will do well by you. You treat me like dirt, I will cut off.....

and guess what, it isn't your line manager treating you all like dirt right now - it's the whole company, it's the CEO, it's the fat cats.....

Why would you go above and beyond for Simon Thompson?
I think some are still in the mind-set that they do it for the customer as well. For instance if you've been on a round for years and know the customer you might feel bad about leaving behind their stuff. The harsh reality is the customer more often that not doesn't care about you. All most of them care about is getting their parcel. I bet there are still customer complaints this/next week despite them being on our side in the strike.

The business gets no favours from me, not since I had a very public falling out with the managers on the shop floor one morning (the area manager was even phoned :chuckle ). I have a start time and a finish time.
Best way to look at it I had a fair few runnings with the clowns in my time just plod on and be safe.