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daveyeff
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Re: Royal mail proposal's

Post by daveyeff »

as long as it wasn't ''Jim'' :Very Happy
Wolf91
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Re: Royal mail proposal's

Post by Wolf91 »

cheesetoastie wrote:
28 Jun 2022, 18:58
My proposal is I want Monday - Friday 10am to 5pm and every 4th week include a Saturday and every 5th week I include a Sunday. Weekend work is paid at 1.25 rate!

The key points are

7 hour day
Monday to Friday
35 hours a week
4 Saturdays off out of 5
4 Sundays off our of 5
Weekend enhanced rate - 14 hours guaranteed a month

Royal mail get their later starts! No mail on Saturday!
20% of the workforce available for weekend work!
Thanks

Can Simon please make this happen for me! Cheers
Yeah, speak for yourself - I know you are but you could do better than that - terrible

:crazy: lol

I can’t see how any of that is appealing
Dorset Plodder
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Re: Royal mail proposal's

Post by Dorset Plodder »

I haven't heard anything about getting another hour off the working week. I presume it's on hold while they offer us a crap pay deal. Any details about the SWW in particular? :cuppa
Like all Wage Slaves, he had two crosses to bear: The people he worked for and the people he worked with! (Stephen Vizinczey.)
DGH
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Re: Royal mail proposal's

Post by DGH »

Dorset Plodder wrote:
06 Jul 2022, 20:48
I haven't heard anything about getting another hour off the working week. I presume it's on hold while they offer us a crap pay deal. Any details about the SWW in particular? :cuppa
Given the proposals include a new 'slave tier' for all new employees, who, amongst other things will be contracted to work 40 hour weeks for a reduced hourly rate of pay, I think we can presume that dear Simon is moving away from the idea of reducing hours.

The 'ideal' end point of this for the likes of the egregious Simon would be all delivery staff working 40 hours a week, everyone driving, and everyone working 5 days a week over 7 days, including, obviously, Sundays. Because that's 'industry standard'. Oh, and 'annualised hours', or his version of that.

It doesn't mean I think this will happen soon, but it's the natural end point. And RM will want it to happen sooner rather than later because that's how big corporations work.
Cucumber
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Re: Royal mail proposal's

Post by Cucumber »

Wolf91 wrote:
29 Jun 2022, 20:22
cheesetoastie wrote:
28 Jun 2022, 18:58
My proposal is I want Monday - Friday 10am to 5pm and every 4th week include a Saturday and every 5th week I include a Sunday. Weekend work is paid at 1.25 rate!

The key points are

7 hour day
Monday to Friday
35 hours a week
4 Saturdays off out of 5
4 Sundays off our of 5
Weekend enhanced rate - 14 hours guaranteed a month

Royal mail get their later starts! No mail on Saturday!
20% of the workforce available for weekend work!
Thanks

Can Simon please make this happen for me! Cheers
Yeah, speak for yourself - I know you are but you could do better than that - terrible

:crazy: lol

I can’t see how any of that is appealing
With a decent wage rise, that would be appealing to a lot more people than you think.
heapsy
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Re: Royal mail proposal's

Post by heapsy »

norris9 wrote:
28 Jun 2022, 07:11
Then they'd have to do the revisions all over again to factor in the 10 to 30 minute losses in time stuck in rush hour traffic.

Imagine the cost to Royal Mail if rush hour traffic slows every Postman down across the country by an average of 10 minutes per day.
Why? If they aren't paying you for going over it doesn't matter. You'll just be out longer.
Clappedoutpostie
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Re: Royal mail proposal's

Post by Clappedoutpostie »

heapsy wrote:
26 Jul 2022, 23:13
Why? If they aren't paying you for going over it doesn't matter. You'll just be out longer.
They are still paying you one way or the other, it’s a relevant point.
DGH
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Re: Royal mail proposal's

Post by DGH »

Fair play to Simon and his senior team though. The CWU were adamant that they wanted a 'no strings' pay deal, and so they've come back with a pay deal with a ball and chain attached instead.
2yearpostie
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Re: Royal mail proposal's

Post by 2yearpostie »

Cucumber wrote:
07 Jul 2022, 15:02
Wolf91 wrote:
29 Jun 2022, 20:22
cheesetoastie wrote:
28 Jun 2022, 18:58
My proposal is I want Monday - Friday 10am to 5pm and every 4th week include a Saturday and every 5th week I include a Sunday. Weekend work is paid at 1.25 rate!

The key points are

7 hour day
Monday to Friday
35 hours a week
4 Saturdays off out of 5
4 Sundays off our of 5
Weekend enhanced rate - 14 hours guaranteed a month

Royal mail get their later starts! No mail on Saturday!
20% of the workforce available for weekend work!
Thanks

Can Simon please make this happen for me! Cheers
Yeah, speak for yourself - I know you are but you could do better than that - terrible

:crazy: lol

I can’t see how any of that is appealing
With a decent wage rise, that would be appealing to a lot more people than you think.
Speak for your self, Quite happy with 7am-2pm and no sundays, have a weekend team of new workers for sat/sun parcels.
Cucumber
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Re: Royal mail proposal's

Post by Cucumber »

2yearpostie wrote:
27 Jul 2022, 07:53
Cucumber wrote:
07 Jul 2022, 15:02
Wolf91 wrote:
29 Jun 2022, 20:22
cheesetoastie wrote:
28 Jun 2022, 18:58
My proposal is I want Monday - Friday 10am to 5pm and every 4th week include a Saturday and every 5th week I include a Sunday. Weekend work is paid at 1.25 rate!

The key points are

7 hour day
Monday to Friday
35 hours a week
4 Saturdays off out of 5
4 Sundays off our of 5
Weekend enhanced rate - 14 hours guaranteed a month

Royal mail get their later starts! No mail on Saturday!
20% of the workforce available for weekend work!
Thanks

Can Simon please make this happen for me! Cheers
Yeah, speak for yourself - I know you are but you could do better than that - terrible

:crazy: lol

I can’t see how any of that is appealing
With a decent wage rise, that would be appealing to a lot more people than you think.
Speak for your self, Quite happy with 7am-2pm and no sundays, have a weekend team of new workers for sat/sun parcels.
What will you be doing on Saturday if someone else is doing parcels though?

My original point remains, and I'm not speaking for myself. But with the correct incentives, later starts and SOME unsociable work hours at the weekend would work for many people.
Woody Guthrie
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Re: Royal mail proposal's

Post by Woody Guthrie »

later starts and SOME unsociable work hours at the weekend would work for many people.
Maybe it would although nobody in my time in Royal Mail has ever said that to me but I think the point is you don't get the choice.

Like it or lump it seems to be Royal Mail's new mission statement.
Only dead fish follow the current
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Re: Royal mail proposal's

Post by k979aaa »

Woody Guthrie wrote:
27 Jul 2022, 14:11
later starts and SOME unsociable work hours at the weekend would work for many people.
Maybe it would although nobody in my time in Royal Mail has ever said that to me but I think the point is you don't get the choice.

Like it or lump it seems to be Royal Mail's new mission statement.
Piss the workforce off at your peril RM
aiden01
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Re: Royal mail proposal's

Post by aiden01 »

k979aaa wrote:
04 Aug 2022, 22:20
Woody Guthrie wrote:
27 Jul 2022, 14:11
later starts and SOME unsociable work hours at the weekend would work for many people.
Maybe it would although nobody in my time in Royal Mail has ever said that to me but I think the point is you don't get the choice.

Like it or lump it seems to be Royal Mail's new mission statement.
Piss the workforce off at your peril RM
Already have ffs.