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What will be the next move from the CWU?

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Re: What will be the next move from the CWU?

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Subman wrote:
25 Sep 2022, 16:59
With two days off next week, would I be correct in thinking that D2D returns made by delivery staff will be over 20%?
Depends on the person doing the duty or managers prepping d2d in any case I am paid one days work not two and have a start time finish time and going home time!
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Re: What will be the next move from the CWU?

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crimson king wrote:
24 Sep 2022, 05:31
POSTPERSON50 wrote:
23 Sep 2022, 23:01
LaggyBand wrote:
23 Sep 2022, 22:56
Rolling strikes and new ballot for work to rule I imagine are coming
I've always wondered how long it would take for a delivery office to become completely swamped and unmanageable if everyone worked to rule, cancelled working days off, started and finished work right on time, etc.

Probably a few weeks to a month I think (at this time of year).
I've always wondered how the hell this could ever work in a large office and who would be expected to police it?

Would the unit rep be expected to be on the door all morning, questioning why all the different start times are coming in early/ oi, Dave, let me just check the rota...thought so, you bounder, this is yer rest day...

How would anyone know if anyone is taking their breaks out in the field? Again, is the rep expected to pore over the Actuals the next day?

Finish on time? Again, who would know? Rep staying behind til 6pm to moan at docket fiends?

A picket line is a simple, visible thing...oh look, Dave's crossing the picket line, the absolute bounder....whereas the whole work to rule thing would just be a vast, unmonitorable and open to abuse mess.

In principle, yeah, working to rule would be great and you're spot on, it'd bring the company to a grinding halt, but I just can't see how it'd work in reality.
It's for this very reason work to rule would be a waste of time. Along with splitting the workforce between full and part timers, and meaning more cross pickets as they can't make their strike money back on overtime. Rolling strikes is a far better idea; shut Royal Mail down for a week.
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Re: What will be the next move from the CWU?

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The threat facing us is so severe that for the first time during my Royal Mail career I think we're going to need to strike during Christmas pressure.
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Re: What will be the next move from the CWU?

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walthmstowman wrote:
25 Sep 2022, 20:44
The threat facing us is so severe that for the first time during my Royal Mail career I think we're going to need to strike during Christians pressure.
Yes this needs to be announced soon. Get the dates set for a big strike in over Christmas asap. Striking for the odd day and getting nowhere with it is already getting tiresome.

I’d rather lose a whole weeks pay striking for a full week over Xmas that would actually make RM s**t themselves, than lose 5 days pay staggered over 8 weeks with no effect.
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Re: What will be the next move from the CWU?

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LaggyBand wrote:
24 Sep 2022, 20:59
HTPostman wrote:
24 Sep 2022, 07:07
Refusal to drive any van with even minor defects. Things like vans with mirrors taped on, is that really safe? Doors which don’t open forcing us to unload parcels/bags etc on the road.
This is a great one.

CWU ballot for work to rule

Then put out we want everyone to pay “particular attention” to their usual van checks with a list (okayed by a road safety expert) of all of the things that “could” (hint hint) fail a van check, or even better, a list of things you can’t be conducted for refusing to use the van (lower threshold, eg decent dents, rubbish inside).

This must be the majority of our fleet.

It would grind deliveries to a halt.

Members still get paid. Overtime might even increase as posties wait for vans to be replaced / fixed or alternative delivery methods used.

We should be doing this!

Edit: and before someone says you should be doing this anyway, then you must not be very experienced in RM. I assure you, the effect having a union “initiated” move to do this would be huge; most people just drive the vans anyway, to avoid confrontation with managers, and because they just want to get out there delivering. Once a few of the more confident ones start it won’t take long before everyone is doing it. Especially if the angle starts being played “Bob mate why you taking that out, that could cost you your licence mate and I’m seeing you do it”
I’d go further. With all the botched revisions and idiot planners who decided 2 streets 10 miles apart should be next to each other on the frame, just start tying up to the frame. That’s what our managers do when they are prepping (naughty naughty) and tying up a delivery and just assume it follows the frame.
The day is gonna come when we’re all gonna have to testify.

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Re: What will be the next move from the CWU?

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robson144 wrote:
25 Sep 2022, 20:57
walthmstowman wrote:
25 Sep 2022, 20:44
The threat facing us is so severe that for the first time during my Royal Mail career I think we're going to need to strike during Christians pressure.
Yes this needs to be announced soon. Get the dates set for a big strike in over Christmas asap. Striking for the odd day and getting nowhere with it is already getting tiresome.

I’d rather lose a whole weeks pay striking for a full week over Xmas that would actually make RM s**t themselves, than lose 5 days pay staggered over 8 weeks with no effect.
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