Postal workers: Vote no and defend our terms and conditions

[clashcityrocker]

They ran mail on trains in the old days and got most of the round done by 9am.

In those days there were tens of thousands of people working nights.

[timbo1234]

That’s been what the CWU have stalled for
Feather their nest and then shite in it

So you're still on the CWU and RM conspiracy theory. Really? I mean really?

[Wullie10]

The Tories, Putin , Labour , the CWU. The Political minded always tear themselves apart and ultimately lose. They can never get passed the egos of the ones who want the top job. Stick with your Union or stack shelves at Tesco. What are you going to achieve with a divided union ? Nothing.

[Mr Rush]

They ran mail on trains in the old days and got most of the round done by 9am.

In those days there were tens of thousands of people working nights.

And we replaced them with machines... that are slower?

[guardianangel]

So the result of a no vote should be all out strikes when people are struggling financially. We’ve done the striking thing it didn’t work. It’s seems emotion has overtaken pragmatism.

The cwu got the whole strike wrong,they striked on the wrong days and not long enough they are to blame for the whole mess,im voting NO and am willing to strike for the unforseeable.

[Trumanity]

So the result of a no vote should be all out strikes when people are struggling financially. We’ve done the striking thing it didn’t work. It’s seems emotion has overtaken pragmatism.

Vote Yes. At least you get something before they get everything. Voting No means you get nothing and they get everything. Simple.

[koolishy67]

Voted YES let's give me a my pay rise I don't mind to start late and finish late who ever vote let them stay on same finishing time and don't give them pay rise simple

[Nickvilla20]

So the result of a no vote should be all out strikes when people are struggling financially. We’ve done the striking thing it didn’t work. It’s seems emotion has overtaken pragmatism.

The cwu got the whole strike wrong,they striked on the wrong days and not long enough they are to blame for the whole mess,im voting NO and am willing to strike for the unforseeable.

I assume you are financially comfortable enough to go on week long strikes then? Many can’t and now won’t go on extended strikes we walked out over Xmas and the company hardly budged. Going on strike now will achieve nothing.

You need to think of an alternative to just strikes if you want to make the company renegotiate.

[X_hamster]

A few simple comments above

[Nickvilla20]

So the result of a no vote should be all out strikes when people are struggling financially. We’ve done the striking thing it didn’t work. It’s seems emotion has overtaken pragmatism.

Vote Yes. At least you get something before they get everything. Voting No means you get nothing and they get everything. Simple.

This was always the end game for Royal Mail since it was sold off. They have been sniping at new starters T&Cs for years now they are coming after the old guard and they isn’t really much use or the union can really do.

[X_hamster]

What were the 18 days of strikes for then....

Looking a bit daft now if the net result was bend over and get your yes vote tickled.

Would have saved a lot of time , stress and money if it was all just happening anyway......

Hence why the CWU are rightfully taking a pounding, they have hand in hand with RM led the membership up the delivery point path.

All this said, still see NO result on the horizon.

[Geordiepapa]

Voted YES let's give me a my pay rise I don't mind to start late and finish late who ever vote let them stay on same finishing time and don't give them pay rise simple

And let the NO voters keep their current terms and conditions too!!! And those who vote Yes, who are you gonna run to if you have to go of sick with flu because you've been out in the pouring rain for hours on delivery and then get less SSP. Or even worse case scenario, you suffer from ill health because of the job, unable to work elsewhere, and are handed a pittance amount for ill health retirement. Please, see the bigger picture and not just a few pounds pay rise in your pocket. It's a NO vote from me.

[Duesouth]

Voted YES let's give me a my pay rise I don't mind to start late and finish late who ever vote let them stay on same finishing time and don't give them pay rise simple

And let the NO voters keep their current terms and conditions too!!! And those who vote Yes, who are you gonna run to if you have to go of sick with flu because you've been out in the pouring rain for hours on delivery and then get less SSP. Or even worse case scenario, you suffer from ill health because of the job, unable to work elsewhere, and are handed a pittance amount for ill health retirement. Please, see the bigger picture and not just a few pounds pay rise in your pocket. It's a NO vote from me.

That's the worry is grinding your body in the really bad weather going home soaked feeling ill the next day because of the outdoor conditions. All of this in the longer working days during autumn/winter, I really can't see this working. It's all great on paper, but in reality it's a different ball game.

Over the years including last year in the hot conditions we came in early because by 1pm it was too hot to work outdoors, if we continued people could of been hospitalized or even dead. I don't think the cwu's H&S officer has taken much thought on how the employees will struggle in the hottest part of the day.

[pieoftheday]

That’s been what the CWU have stalled for
Feather their nest and then shite in it

So you're still on the CWU and RM conspiracy theory. Really? I mean really?

With email I got from cwu today, I think I might be. A theory doesn't mean it isn't true

[TopperGas]

Voted YES let's give me a my pay rise I don't mind to start late and finish late who ever vote let them stay on same finishing time and don't give them pay rise simple

And let the NO voters keep their current terms and conditions too!!! And those who vote Yes, who are you gonna run to if you have to go of sick with flu because you've been out in the pouring rain for hours on delivery and then get less SSP. Or even worse case scenario, you suffer from ill health because of the job, unable to work elsewhere, and are handed a pittance amount for ill health retirement. Please, see the bigger picture and not just a few pounds pay rise in your pocket. It's a NO vote from me.

The bigger picture is this is really now the end game, reject this deal and RM will impose whatever they want by EA, voting No isn't going to force RM to up their offer.