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Shadedpostie
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Post by Shadedpostie »

More than likely hear something at 7pm. Though, the silence is pretty telling.
sixfoottwo
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Post by sixfoottwo »

Where's Martin Walsh these days? Has he departed the site? Always first for any info.
Spartacus
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Post by Spartacus »

We gave them the Yes Vote they asked for, it's not unreasonable to expect to know broadly what is going on is it, looks like the only negotiations are about how much lube the business are going to use on us.
Delivery

Resistance is fertile
CRIBMAD
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Post by CRIBMAD »

jeez in the words of Harry Enfield - "CALM DOWN CALM DOWN" so depressing !
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Post by blacov »

I am surprised people are still looking forward to updates as you are expecting a positive resolution. You should either accept the job is gone to the wall or be ready to leave. After Xmas was out the way I knew it will be over sooner or later. RM as a company frankly is finished too.
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Post by Redsoxirish »

I think this is spot on
Richie24
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Post by Richie24 »

The union have messed up, failed and have cost its members money and we all know how it will end. I slightly better pay increase, backdated and with all the changes brought in. Sundays will stay voluntary for a couple of years and then part of our contract and annualised hours was never going to happen, but flexi time will come back, but again only 30 mins.
Let’s be honest all the revisions are coming in regardless of what the Union say or do. Ours starts on Monday. Our Div has 17 walks and we are losing 5 walks, none of this will ever be rolled back.

Fun times ahead
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Post by robking »

Richie24 wrote:
01 Mar 2023, 18:50
The union have messed up, failed and have cost its members money and we all know how it will end. I slightly better pay increase, backdated and with all the changes brought in. Sundays will stay voluntary for a couple of years and then part of our contract and annualised hours was never going to happen, but flexi time will come back, but again only 30 mins.
Let’s be honest all the revisions are coming in regardless of what the Union say or do. Ours starts on Monday. Our Div has 17 walks and we are losing 5 walks, none of this will ever be rolled back.

Fun times ahead
You are probably more or less spot on and people will vote to accept it because all some people can see are £ signs.
It will be just like working for DHL or FedEx is a couple of years.
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Post by sindba »

Must admit, this is piss poor from the CWU.

Don't say "Wednesday at the latest" if you're not gonna bother. Even if the update is just "talks continuing, nothing to report".
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It’s still Wednesday for afew more hours u know.
sixfoottwo
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Post by sixfoottwo »

Clappedoutpostie wrote:
01 Mar 2023, 19:31
It’s still Wednesday for afew more hours u know.
Got till 23.59 so no need to panic :left: then comes the report is there's nothing to report!
Shadedpostie
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Post by Shadedpostie »

Anyone spinning this silence as anything positive needs to really re-read what the union has said in the past. "If there is anything new, we'll update you." Seems to be a pattern that members are honestly getting sick and tired of with both the union and the RM. Think union do not help themselves leaving themselves deadlines or even mentioning dates. End of the day it's postman's lives that are getting f****d over here, not them or senior management. Creates more anxiety and frustration in the workforce. Can't blame people for being pissed off considering what's been going on at work and been nearly a year now. Radio silence as ever.
Shadedpostie
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Post by Shadedpostie »

Anyone spinning this silence as anything positive needs to really re-read what the union has said in the past. "If there is anything new, we'll update you." Seems to be a pattern that members are honestly getting sick and tired of with both the union and the RM. Think union do not help themselves leaving themselves deadlines or even mentioning dates. End of the day it's postman's lives that are getting f****d over here, not them or senior management. Creates more anxiety and frustration in the workforce. Can't blame people for being pissed off considering what's been going on at work and been nearly a year now. Radio silence as ever.
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Post by david3595 »

Martin Walsh has replied on another thread :thumbup
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Post by gerardy »

We fully understand the need and demand for information on the negotiations with Royal Mail Group.

We have been dealing with the priority issues of unagreed revisions, executive action and conduct matters arising from the dispute. We have made progress in all of these areas.

We are meeting with the employer again tomorrow morning and hope to finalise a joint statement. This statement has been facilitated by former TUC General Secretary Sir Brendan Barber and ACAS.

We will definitely be communicating directly with members tomorrow.

These negotiations are complex and very serious. We thank you for your support and patience - it is making a huge difference.

Dave Ward
General Secretary

Andy Furey
Acting Deputy General Secretary (Postal)