Seasonal hours suspended Update-"To start 4th of September"

[guardianangel]

The (still) bitter no voters are getting boring too for pretending this s**t wouldn’t have happened anyway in the event of a no vote result. Enjoy the pay rise us yes voters secured for you.

Something we will never know, but we certainly know what we got with a yes vote,seasonal hours and a pay cut and worse terms time to wake up maybe one day you will be brave enough.

You do know though. Royal Mail publicly stated all the changes that would be happening regardless of the agreement, including even later starts than we actually managed to secure in the agreement.

You can keep pretending the job was staying the same in the result of a no vote, but you are sounding increasingly deluded, though at least you haven’t completely lost the plot like CRIMBAD and at least attempt to construct coherent sentences, so props for that.

Stating and doing are completely 2 different things,they played with your mind and your mind was empty and you lost,wake up that's what all big business does,you have been hoodwinked and stop pretending you haven't,defeated in the first round.

[LouBarlow]

The (still) bitter no voters are getting boring too for pretending this s**t wouldn’t have happened anyway in the event of a no vote result. Enjoy the pay rise us yes voters secured for you.

Something we will never know, but we certainly know what we got with a yes vote,seasonal hours and a pay cut and worse terms time to wake up maybe one day you will be brave enough.

You do know though. Royal Mail publicly stated all the changes that would be happening regardless of the agreement, including even later starts than we actually managed to secure in the agreement.

You can keep pretending the job was staying the same in the result of a no vote, but you are sounding increasingly deluded, though at least you haven’t completely lost the plot like CRIMBAD and at least attempt to construct coherent sentences, so props for that.

Stating and doing are completely 2 different things,they played with your mind and your mind was empty and you lost,wake up that's what all big business does,you have been hoodwinked and stop pretending you haven't,defeated in the first round.

Funny, I don’t feel defeated though. Pay rise secured, more money on the way and still an easy job. Happy days.

[Woody Guthrie]

It's pretty clear from Royal Mail's behaviour during the dispute and after the agreement was ratified that we're dealing with a far more aggressive animal than we have in the past.

The idea that there was a better deal out there to be had is delusional and the position that "we'll never know" is just hiding from the reality of where we were and are now.

The letters side of the business is dying, sending letters is dying and that will only accelerate as companies are pushed harder and harder to reduce their carbon footprint.

The USO will change and the majority of our work will be parcels, the business will be much smaller and will be competing with the minimum wage sharks.

It's time to move on from the bitterness. All the union can do in that scenario is damage limitation and mitigation but be sure without a union it will be a steep learning curve for some on here.

None of this fills me with joy but it is unfortunately inevitable.

[hans solo]

It's pretty clear from Royal Mail's behaviour during the dispute and after the agreement was ratified that we're dealing with a far more aggressive animal than we have in the past.

The idea that there was a better deal out there to be had is delusional and the position that "we'll never know" is just hiding from the reality of where we were and are now.

The letters side of the business is dying, sending letters is dying and that will only accelerate as companies are pushed harder and harder to reduce their carbon footprint.

The USO will change and the majority of our work will be parcels, the business will be much smaller and will be competing with the minimum wage sharks.

It's time to move on from the bitterness. All the union can do in that scenario is damage limitation and mitigation but be sure without a union it will be a steep learning curve for some on here.

None of this fills me with joy but it is unfortunately inevitable.

Defeatist attitude right there and you wonder why uk is now a third world country
Go shine your bosses boots while your at it

[Nickvilla20]

It's pretty clear from Royal Mail's behaviour during the dispute and after the agreement was ratified that we're dealing with a far more aggressive animal than we have in the past.

The idea that there was a better deal out there to be had is delusional and the position that "we'll never know" is just hiding from the reality of where we were and are now.

The letters side of the business is dying, sending letters is dying and that will only accelerate as companies are pushed harder and harder to reduce their carbon footprint.

The USO will change and the majority of our work will be parcels, the business will be much smaller and will be competing with the minimum wage sharks.

It's time to move on from the bitterness. All the union can do in that scenario is damage limitation and mitigation but be sure without a union it will be a steep learning curve for some on here.

None of this fills me with joy but it is unfortunately inevitable.

Defeatist attitude right there and you wonder why uk is now a third world country
Go shine your bosses boots while your at it

It’s not defeatist it’s the harsh reality of where we are sadly.

[hazzeem025]

It's pretty clear from Royal Mail's behaviour during the dispute and after the agreement was ratified that we're dealing with a far more aggressive animal than we have in the past.

The idea that there was a better deal out there to be had is delusional and the position that "we'll never know" is just hiding from the reality of where we were and are now.

The letters side of the business is dying, sending letters is dying and that will only accelerate as companies are pushed harder and harder to reduce their carbon footprint.

The USO will change and the majority of our work will be parcels, the business will be much smaller and will be competing with the minimum wage sharks.

It's time to move on from the bitterness. All the union can do in that scenario is damage limitation and mitigation but be sure without a union it will be a steep learning curve for some on here.

None of this fills me with joy but it is unfortunately inevitable.

Defeatist attitude right there and you wonder why uk is now a third world country
Go shine your bosses boots while your at it

Come on then hans solo, let's hear your plan b. Nobody has come up with a credible plan b. Go out on strike for a week, a month blah blah. Yeah that'll show them, when virtually nobody can afford to do that. R.M are not interested in their workers, full stop. They only care about the shareholders. And yeah you're right we are a third world country. But you can blame that on the thick c***s who voted the Tories in and then voted yes to Brexit.

[Beanyjazz]

You all voted for it.

Enjoy it.

So did you. Enjoy it.

I'm on collections so 95% of this new nonsense doesn't affect me, I still voted NO because of the T&Cs and because I have an IQ over 16.

Another beauty is now they can use the Trimbls against you, don't be caught speeding or you'll be sacked x

[aiden01]

It's pretty clear from Royal Mail's behaviour during the dispute and after the agreement was ratified that we're dealing with a far more aggressive animal than we have in the past.

The idea that there was a better deal out there to be had is delusional and the position that "we'll never know" is just hiding from the reality of where we were and are now.

The letters side of the business is dying, sending letters is dying and that will only accelerate as companies are pushed harder and harder to reduce their carbon footprint.

The USO will change and the majority of our work will be parcels, the business will be much smaller and will be competing with the minimum wage sharks.

It's time to move on from the bitterness. All the union can do in that scenario is damage limitation and mitigation but be sure without a union it will be a steep learning curve for some on here.

None of this fills me with joy but it is unfortunately inevitable.

Defeatist attitude right there and you wonder why uk is now a third world country
Go shine your bosses boots while your at it

Come on then hans solo, let's hear your plan b. Nobody has come up with a credible plan b. Go out on strike for a week, a month blah blah. Yeah that'll show them, when virtually nobody can afford to do that. R.M are not interested in their workers, full stop. They only care about the shareholders. And yeah you're right we are a third world country. But you can blame that on the thick c***s who voted the Tories in and then voted yes to Brexit.

Hans solo has no plan b all he posts on here is rumours deluded

[funkflex55]

The variation for part timers is pretty pointless at 10 minutes. What happens next summer when the time is taken back and you're paired with a full timer. You drop them off and then go out again for 14 more minutes to deliver 3 letters? Or more likely that time is just lost waiting around for finish time. Also as this summer has shown the walks are mostly unachievable. How will people complete with less time! It's a shame something so simple is made so complicated by greedy f***ing morons.

[Binsey]

I wouldn’t right off Letters just yet.

Covid proved that.

Read loads of books on civilisation decline/collapse.
The Internet/Email isn’t a done thing it’s in fact very fragile.

As systems become too complicated they break down.

Happens time and time again throughout history.

We won’t be any different.

[Woody Guthrie]

Excuse me if I don't bet my mortgage on the collapse of civilisation.

[guardianangel]

It's pretty clear from Royal Mail's behaviour during the dispute and after the agreement was ratified that we're dealing with a far more aggressive animal than we have in the past.

The idea that there was a better deal out there to be had is delusional and the position that "we'll never know" is just hiding from the reality of where we were and are now.

The letters side of the business is dying, sending letters is dying and that will only accelerate as companies are pushed harder and harder to reduce their carbon footprint.

The USO will change and the majority of our work will be parcels, the business will be much smaller and will be competing with the minimum wage sharks.

It's time to move on from the bitterness. All the union can do in that scenario is damage limitation and mitigation but be sure without a union it will be a steep learning curve for some on here.

None of this fills me with joy but it is unfortunately inevitable.

Defeatist attitude right there and you wonder why uk is now a third world country
Go shine your bosses boots while your at it

[Foxel]

I wouldn’t right off Letters just yet.

Covid proved that.

Read loads of books on civilisation decline/collapse.
The Internet/Email isn’t a done thing it’s in fact very fragile.

As systems become too complicated they break down.

Happens time and time again throughout history.

We won’t be any different.

The Internet has survived for over 50 years in its earliest form and was created as a communication tool for when all else failed. I would argue that it really isn't fragile. Especially now with the technological advancements that support it. And as complicated as it might appear, at its physical layer it is just 1's and 0's.

[datasaint]

I wouldn’t right off Letters just yet.

Covid proved that.

Read loads of books on civilisation decline/collapse.
The Internet/Email isn’t a done thing it’s in fact very fragile.

As systems become too complicated they break down.

Happens time and time again throughout history.

We won’t be any different.

The Internet has survived for over 50 years in its earliest form and was created as a communication tool for when all else failed. I would argue that it really isn't fragile. Especially now with the technological advancements that support it. And as complicated as it might appear, at its physical layer it is just 1's and 0's.

The internet is hugely vulnerable. Undersea cables can be destroyed easily. If Russia can take out the Nordstream pipeline, then fibre optic cables are nothing.

There's also the possibility of cyber-warfare. RM had a taste of that not long back, nobody could send any international mail for over a week.

So if a global conflict did break out, it has the potential to disrupt a lot of the modern conveniences we are now accustomed to.

[toonshola]

I wouldn’t right off Letters just yet.

Covid proved that.

Read loads of books on civilisation decline/collapse.
The Internet/Email isn’t a done thing it’s in fact very fragile.

As systems become too complicated they break down.

Happens time and time again throughout history.

We won’t be any different.

The Internet has survived for over 50 years in its earliest form and was created as a communication tool for when all else failed. I would argue that it really isn't fragile. Especially now with the technological advancements that support it. And as complicated as it might appear, at its physical layer it is just 1's and 0's.

The internet is hugely vulnerable. Undersea cables can be destroyed easily. If Russia can take out the Nordstream pipeline, then fibre optic cables are nothing.

There's also the possibility of cyber-warfare. RM had a taste of that not long back, nobody could send any international mail for over a week.

So if a global conflict did break out, it has the potential to disrupt a lot of the modern conveniences we are now accustomed to.

If any of them doomsday scenarios happen then Saturday letters of the uso, seasonal hours and letter volumes will be the least of all our concerns.