Structural revision

[clashcityrocker]

Day 5 is covered by SA , How is the 6th Day Covered

More SA,
If you read numberone's posts, him and his mates are on over 50 grand a year.

[Cucumber]

Kind of seeing now why there is little appetite for standardising many things within RM.

[Woody Guthrie]

Kind of seeing now why there is little appetite for standardising many things within RM.

It's a long term systemic problem within the union and Royal Mail that's becoming more difficult to sweep under the carpet with each agreement.

It's why certain extremely powerful areas always push for "local solutions".

I think it's going to be a rough couple of years.

I think once areas outside the protected inner circle realise just how shitty their end of the stick is there may be trouble.

[Cucumber]

Kind of seeing now why there is little appetite for standardising many things within RM.

It's a long term systemic problem within the union and Royal Mail that's becoming more difficult to sweep under the carpet with each agreement.

It's why certain extremely powerful areas always push for "local solutions".

I think it's going to be a rough couple of years.

I think once areas outside the protected inner circle realise just how shitty their end of the stick is there may be trouble.

Surely area and divisional reps out with these powerful areas know the score already though?

[Woody Guthrie]

Kind of seeing now why there is little appetite for standardising many things within RM.

It's a long term systemic problem within the union and Royal Mail that's becoming more difficult to sweep under the carpet with each agreement.

It's why certain extremely powerful areas always push for "local solutions".

I think it's going to be a rough couple of years.

I think once areas outside the protected inner circle realise just how shitty their end of the stick is there may be trouble.

Surely area and divisional reps out with these powerful areas know the score already though?

Of course they do but they're as much part of the problem as the rest.
It will be interesting so see how they are going to down dial members expectations.

[gary1975]

What’s the fulltime part time ratio for London as a area?

[Jack1960]

What’s the fulltime part time ratio for London as a area?

We have 28 full timers and 2 part timers

[Cucumber]

What’s the fulltime part time ratio for London as a area?

We have 28 full timers and 2 part timers

Wow.

We are far from London and are now about 45% full time 55% part time.

4 Full time left recently and nobody increased in hours. Walks failing every single day, USO is a distant memory.

I can't get my head around where the work is for offices that are 90-95% full time.

[toonshola]

What’s the fulltime part time ratio for London as a area?

We have 28 full timers and 2 part timers

Wow.

We are far from London and are now about 45% full time 55% part time.

4 Full time left recently and nobody increased in hours. Walks failing every single day, USO is a distant memory.

I can't get my head around where the work is for offices that are 90-95% full time.

7 full time have left ours over the last 2.5 years. Not one single part timer has been made up to replace them. Similarly walks failing every day and full timers being in asked early to prep. It will be fine though Dave Terry and Martin insist there is some vague txt in the agreement about possibly looking at increasing part timers hours at some possible date in the future, possibly. What a joke.

[Cucumber]

What’s the fulltime part time ratio for London as a area?

We have 28 full timers and 2 part timers

Wow.

We are far from London and are now about 45% full time 55% part time.

4 Full time left recently and nobody increased in hours. Walks failing every single day, USO is a distant memory.

I can't get my head around where the work is for offices that are 90-95% full time.

7 full time have left ours over the last 2.5 years. Not one single part timer has been made up to replace them. Similarly walks failing every day and full timers being in asked early to prep. It will be fine though Dave Terry and Martin insist there is some vague txt in the agreement about possibly looking at increasing part timers hours at some possible date in the future, possibly. What a joke.

It stands to reason that offices 80% plus FT staff are making up PT staff to FT when someone leaves, otherwise they would be in the same rapidly declining FT workforce % situation that many of offices are in.
Does anyone know why there are areas in the UK that are being stripped down like this? I salute areas that maintain a high % of full time jobs, but I dearly hope that it's not being done at the expense of other areas not being allowed to replace staff.

[Dorset Plodder]

I think once areas outside the protected inner circle realise just how shitty their end of the stick is there may be trouble.

It's that infamous word "AVERAGE"....... "On AVERAGE our workforce is 80% Fulltime & 20% Partime staff" .... So some areas could be 100% FT with no PT .... and others are suffering under a 60%/40% split .....but the AVERAGE still hold true (if my maths is right)

I don't know how we can redress the imbalance when it appears those protected circles wield so much clout?

[clashcityrocker]

The unemployment rate has risen to its highest level in almost five years, with younger workers bearing the brunt of the job losses, official figures show.

The UK's jobless rate rose to 5.1% in the three months to December, with the number of people on company payrolls down 726,000 on pre-pandemic levels.

Almost three-fifths of these were younger than 25 years.

In his introduction to the 4 Pillars Mr Pullfinger talks about not pulling up the ladder on the next generation of postal workers.
As far as I can see there is only one group doing that.
Of course Mr Walsh is correct that some full timers doing overtime would struggle on their basic wage.
It is also true that some are docket hungry, money grabbing mofos who wouldn't recognise a trade value if it punched them in the face.
I'm not sure why they are deserving of so much union protection.

[Woody Guthrie]

I'm not sure why they are deserving of so much union protection.

The first rule of corrupt government is protect the status quo that placed you in that position in the first place.

The docket grabbers run the game, they're predominantly senior, full-time and old school hardcore supporters of the union. Most of them actually know the people they are voting for personally or through mates. They are "active" in the union but only when their own racket is under threat. They can influence how a whole office will vote.

I suggest when Hoffa disappeared they should have checked the mailcentres first before digging up half of Vegas.

[clashcityrocker]

The first rule of corrupt government is protect the status quo that placed you in that position in the first place.

I believe Mr Pullfinger also said people who didn't vote for this agreement were afraid of change.
Perhaps he needs to look closer to home to see those who really want to preserve the status quo.

750 000 people have already lost their jobs. That might be a conservative estimate by the time this is over.
Anyone who wants to build systems with excessive overtime available isn't someone I could call a fellow trade unionist.

[Cucumber]

The first rule of corrupt government is protect the status quo that placed you in that position in the first place.

I believe Mr Pullfinger also said people who didn't vote for this agreement were afraid of change.
Perhaps he needs to look closer to home to see those who really want to preserve the status quo.

750 000 people have already lost their jobs. That might be a conservative estimate by the time this is over.
Anyone who wants to build systems with excessive overtime available isn't someone I could call a fellow trade unionist.

Been sold a total lemon on this 'deal'.