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hct and snow

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bwfcmaddog
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hct and snow

Post by bwfcmaddog »

at what point does it become a health and safety issue when using a hct in the snow we are approaching our first winter with them and i cant get an answer from the dom
fishtank
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Re: hct and snow

Post by fishtank »

bwfcmaddog wrote:at what point does it become a health and safety issue when using a hct in the snow we are approaching our first winter with them and i cant get an answer from the dom
In adverse weather conditions (ice, snow, and slippery conditions) the HCT must only be used on cleared surfaces and with extra care

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Lincox
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Re: hct and snow

Post by Lincox »

So what do you do. Attach wings so it can fly between the cleared surfaces?
fishtank
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Re: hct and snow

Post by fishtank »

Lincox wrote:So what do you do. Attach wings so it can fly between the cleared surfaces?
I think the point is if there is a covering of snow or ice on a significant part of the delivery that hasn't been cleared the HCT shouldn't be used at all.
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Himaggen
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Re: hct and snow

Post by Himaggen »

Lincox wrote:So what do you do.
You take your instruction from your Manager!

They can instruct based upon the result of completion of the Severe Weather Tool.

An accurate assessment resulting from the tool can only happen if the information input is accurate. It should be completed in the presence of the Health and Safety Representative and be input with the correct local data most of which is provided from yourselves. (Don't provide inaccurate, little or no information then complain that you've been asked to do something which is unsafe.)
steven100
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Re: hct and snow

Post by steven100 »

Remember to do your lapsing too!
deltaforce
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Re: hct and snow

Post by deltaforce »

Himaggen wrote:
Lincox wrote:So what do you do.
You take your instruction from your Manager!

They can instruct based upon the result of completion of the Severe Weather Tool.

An accurate assessment resulting from the tool can only happen if the information input is accurate. It should be completed in the presence of the Health and Safety Representative and be input with the correct local data most of which is provided from yourselves. (Don't provide inaccurate, little or no information then complain that you've been asked to do something which is unsafe.)
The severe weather tool...that'll be the strap on snow plough then :Very Happy
Lincox
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Re: hct and snow

Post by Lincox »

Call from Lino

In view of the weather we are asking you to take extra care as ice and snow on pathways can be very slippy, and if you do slip bearing in mind you have been warned, you will not be able to treat this as an AOD. Now get out there and dont come back until you have finished. :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
pokos27
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Re: hct and snow

Post by pokos27 »

he will give you chains for the wheels, you will be made to push that thing in all weathers or be shot, or sent to tenko
justdeno
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Re: hct and snow

Post by justdeno »

So if you can't push the HCT in the snow, how do you deliver the mail? There are no bikes to use, not enough vans and you cannot carry a bag on your back, what is RM's solution? Can you leave the mail until bad weather over :Very Happy ?
Lincox
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Re: hct and snow

Post by Lincox »

Heard they are training up Huskys :arrrghhh :arrrghhh :arrrghhh
Himaggen
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Re: hct and snow

Post by Himaggen »

justdeno wrote:So if you can't push the HCT in the snow, how do you deliver the mail? There are no bikes to use, not enough vans and you cannot carry a bag on your back, what is RM's solution? Can you leave the mail until bad weather over :Very Happy ?
You can carry a bag; They are used for exceptional circumstances, (e.g. blocks of flats), severe weather is an exceptional circumstance too.

Bags were causing health problems mainly due to their continued use over long periods of service, the occasional use of bags in short term exceptional circumstances should not cause similar problems. (The bags you should be using are not the same ones you use on your LWT with a 11-16 kg capacity, they are smaller.) Your office should ensure that they have already ordered sufficient of these bags should it be deemed a reasonable method to use in severe weather.