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Cycle to work??

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macthejaffa
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Cycle to work??

Post by macthejaffa »

Anyone got any idea of the cycle to work benefit is coming back? It just says the window is closed but it has been for ages now so is it on ice or never likely to return……
BenacreNick
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Re: Cycle to work??

Post by BenacreNick »

I believe RM can't gamble with staff potentially falling below minimum wage once the deductions have been calculated from wages Mac.

Could this change in April, possibly not if the minimum wage rises again ?
Duesouth
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Re: Cycle to work??

Post by Duesouth »

BenacreNick wrote:
26 Feb 2026, 17:29
I believe RM can't gamble with staff potentially falling below minimum wage once the deductions have been calculated from wages Mac.

Could this change in April, possibly not if the minimum wage rises again ?
The company can gamble to make sure all workers lose out on many benefits like POAL and the cycle scheme. They don't care if you have to walk to work.

The business are aware of the ramifications of falling below the minimum wage threshold and most of us have to suffer because of miscalculation. What a great company :thumbdown
Acca Dacca
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Re: Cycle to work??

Post by Acca Dacca »

BenacreNick wrote:
26 Feb 2026, 17:29
I believe RM can't gamble with staff potentially falling below minimum wage once the deductions have been calculated from wages Mac.

Could this change in April, possibly not if the minimum wage rises again ?
Yes they used that excuse before the last payrise - but legacy are nowhere near minimum wage so it doesnt wash anymore
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
A2B
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Re: Cycle to work??

Post by A2B »

Acca Dacca wrote:
26 Feb 2026, 18:00
BenacreNick wrote:
26 Feb 2026, 17:29
I believe RM can't gamble with staff potentially falling below minimum wage once the deductions have been calculated from wages Mac.

Could this change in April, possibly not if the minimum wage rises again ?
Yes they used that excuse before the last payrise - but legacy are nowhere near minimum wage so it doesnt wash anymore
Haven't RM calculated it with a ridiculous 20% buffer which is why legacy staff along with new starts cannot qualify for Benefits.

I imagine RM are trying to use this in the ODM talks and if/when any agreement is reached it will be reviewed
TopperGas
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Re: Cycle to work??

Post by TopperGas »

BenacreNick wrote:
26 Feb 2026, 17:29
I believe RM can't gamble with staff potentially falling below minimum wage once the deductions have been calculated from wages Mac.

Could this change in April, possibly not if the minimum wage rises again ?
Out of interest why is it a gamble, they know our rate of pay and the MW, so all they have to do is tell each employee you can spend £x once they've calculated the difference between the two figures?
rogersh
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Re: Cycle to work??

Post by rogersh »

As pointed out, the calculation uses a buffer or "margin" as this reply (edited) from HR explains regarding POAL;

" The check can only look at basic pay and must ensure that no colleague’s hourly rate could fall below the legal minimum at any point during the year. That means we have to consider what could change during the year and apply a margin to cover those changes. This margin has to cover all possibilities and when applied to the check significantly increase the likelihood of someone not passing the check."
loyalsnail
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Re: Cycle to work??

Post by loyalsnail »

The affordability checks are dictated by the lowest paid job in Royal Mail - if a legacy terms postie switched to working in customer experience or HR, which is entirely plausible and happens semi-regularly, they'd soon find they couldn't afford the salary sacrifice they'd contractually signed up to with third parties and the business would have to fund the payments.
yellowbelly
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Re: Cycle to work??

Post by yellowbelly »

loyalsnail wrote:
27 Feb 2026, 06:38
The affordability checks are dictated by the lowest paid job in Royal Mail - if a legacy terms postie switched to working in customer experience or HR, which is entirely plausible and happens semi-regularly, they'd soon find they couldn't afford the salary sacrifice they'd contractually signed up to with third parties and the business would have to fund the payments.
Out of interest, how much do Customer Experience or HR types get paid?
Hitcher
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Re: Cycle to work??

Post by Hitcher »

TopperGas wrote:
26 Feb 2026, 19:24
BenacreNick wrote:
26 Feb 2026, 17:29
I believe RM can't gamble with staff potentially falling below minimum wage once the deductions have been calculated from wages Mac.

Could this change in April, possibly not if the minimum wage rises again ?
Out of interest why is it a gamble, they know our rate of pay and the MW, so all they have to do is tell each employee you can spend £x once they've calculated the difference between the two figures?
And then you go sick a couple of times and your wages go down below minimum wage.
loyalsnail
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Re: Cycle to work??

Post by loyalsnail »

yellowbelly wrote:
27 Feb 2026, 08:09
loyalsnail wrote:
27 Feb 2026, 06:38
The affordability checks are dictated by the lowest paid job in Royal Mail - if a legacy terms postie switched to working in customer experience or HR, which is entirely plausible and happens semi-regularly, they'd soon find they couldn't afford the salary sacrifice they'd contractually signed up to with third parties and the business would have to fund the payments.
Out of interest, how much do Customer Experience or HR types get paid?
Starts at about £23k last I looked
loyalsnail
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Re: Cycle to work??

Post by loyalsnail »

Hitcher wrote:
27 Feb 2026, 08:19
TopperGas wrote:
26 Feb 2026, 19:24
BenacreNick wrote:
26 Feb 2026, 17:29
I believe RM can't gamble with staff potentially falling below minimum wage once the deductions have been calculated from wages Mac.

Could this change in April, possibly not if the minimum wage rises again ?
Out of interest why is it a gamble, they know our rate of pay and the MW, so all they have to do is tell each employee you can spend £x once they've calculated the difference between the two figures?
And then you go sick a couple of times and your wages go down below minimum wage.
That doesn't matter, as long as your pay goes down proportional to your time absent as any time you spend unpaid whilst not working is ignored.
sindba
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Re: Cycle to work??

Post by sindba »

Doubt it. Think we've seen the end of all salary sacrifice benefits.

A big well- done to the CWU for "negotiating" a 3 year pay cut for us last time round.