dm26

[ted_e_bear]

Although what's the point in delivering the Radio Times on a 1c only day when RM are clearly telling everybody no 2c mail will be delivered on a 1c only day?

The more 2C (coincidentals or not) that can go out on the light day, the less heavy the heavy day. It's, uh, almost as if we should just clear every walk every day.

The only extra 2C that could go out would be the manual letters and flats, the mech will get held by the DTS if it's a non-2C day. I don't think RM have decided yet what will happen with any 2C/DSA that has hit the time limit for the product but where it's a non-2C day.

I think RM should look into feeding data into the DTS algorithm from any flat sorting or packet sorting machines. There must be loads of times where a DP has got a flat or a packet that has been sorted by machine but no mech 1C letter. In them cases it'd allow the mail for them DPs to be released.

Yeah we've said that before, as usual it's halfarsed

[twoloops]

obviously all breaks down when you have a day off and the f****r covering you cuts off and doesn't even do his half of your delivery then you are back to catch up mode again.

The above is where Royal Mail win, the donkeys will come even earlier for free just to keep on top, any postie that cut off should be praised not condoned

[A2B]

I've thought this from the beginning. If you are on your own 50:50 singleton round or in the singleton van part of a pod. Everyday if you are clever you can manage your own workload for the next day (except Saturday) If you want to do a bit extra on Wednesday you could have an easier Thursday etc obviously all breaks down when you have a day off and the f****r covering you cuts off and doesn't even do his half of your delivery then you are back to catch up mode again.
The key will be to getting good pairings working with you in the pods. If you get hammered by a bulk posting I come and help you do a loop off your 2nd frame. If I get too many tracked you guys pick up the boxes and the consumer collections to help me out.
It has potential.....but like all things in RM it will be ruined by the people who try and manage it with no clue how it works or by the people who don't want to put in a shift.

We are only in the trial period and people are trying to think up ways to have easier days

Just work your hours not to the workload and every day will be manageable

[TopperGas]

Although what's the point in delivering the Radio Times on a 1c only day when RM are clearly telling everybody no 2c mail will be delivered on a 1c only day?

The more 2C (coincidentals or not) that can go out on the light day, the less heavy the heavy day. It's, uh, almost as if we should just clear every walk every day.

The only extra 2C that could go out would be the manual letters and flats, the mech will get held by the DTS if it's a non-2C day. I don't think RM have decided yet what will happen with any 2C/DSA that has hit the time limit for the product but where it's a non-2C day.

I think RM should look into feeding data into the DTS algorithm from any flat sorting or packet sorting machines. There must be loads of times where a DP has got a flat or a packet that has been sorted by machine but no mech 1C letter. In them cases it'd allow the mail for them DPs to be released.

Or perhaps RM could buy in machines which sort everything, we now have machines sorting 1c mail, another sorting flats etc and another doing 2c MECH, why not just have one machine doing the whole lot?

[SpacePhoenix]

Although what's the point in delivering the Radio Times on a 1c only day when RM are clearly telling everybody no 2c mail will be delivered on a 1c only day?

The more 2C (coincidentals or not) that can go out on the light day, the less heavy the heavy day. It's, uh, almost as if we should just clear every walk every day.

The only extra 2C that could go out would be the manual letters and flats, the mech will get held by the DTS if it's a non-2C day. I don't think RM have decided yet what will happen with any 2C/DSA that has hit the time limit for the product but where it's a non-2C day.

I think RM should look into feeding data into the DTS algorithm from any flat sorting or packet sorting machines. There must be loads of times where a DP has got a flat or a packet that has been sorted by machine but no mech 1C letter. In them cases it'd allow the mail for them DPs to be released.

Or perhaps RM could buy in machines which sort everything, we now have machines sorting 1c mail, another sorting flats etc and another doing 2c MECH, why not just have one machine doing the whole lot?

RM trialled a machine that could sort flats and letters together, it was crap.

[GRS]

What sort of society have we become where a load of self important Uni bods fresh into the workplace can come up with a load of A I produced bollocks to impose such a convoluted way of working and replace a simple tried & tested method to the cost of its customers & employees.

[ted_e_bear]

I've thought this from the beginning. If you are on your own 50:50 singleton round or in the singleton van part of a pod. Everyday if you are clever you can manage your own workload for the next day (except Saturday) If you want to do a bit extra on Wednesday you could have an easier Thursday etc obviously all breaks down when you have a day off and the f****r covering you cuts off and doesn't even do his half of your delivery then you are back to catch up mode again.
The key will be to getting good pairings working with you in the pods. If you get hammered by a bulk posting I come and help you do a loop off your 2nd frame. If I get too many tracked you guys pick up the boxes and the consumer collections to help me out.
It has potential.....but like all things in RM it will be ruined by the people who try and manage it with no clue how it works or by the people who don't want to put in a shift.

And that's part of the reason why it's a s**t idea, are you actually a 'team' of three responsible for four duties, will it work like that - probably not the pairing and the singleton more than likely won't help each other, for example will the singleton be responsible for the d2ds on two duties whilst the other two it's one each ? What if the pairing finishes before the singleton or vice versa will they go help ?

It's been discussed a few times on here that it would have been a far better approach to properly plan oversized duties with the intention of doing the 50.50 method so everyone in the same boat either singleton or pairings, they'd get the staff savings just the same but it would be far simpler than this arse cake idea.

[richietns]

What sort of society have we become where a load of self important Uni bods fresh into the workplace can come up with a load of A I produced bollocks to impose such a convoluted way of working and replace a simple tried & tested method to the cost of its customers & employees.

Therein lies the answer it looks good 3 into 4 money saving,its like look we have a plan more work with less staff,everyone's happy for now ofcom etc apart from staff.

[Peabrain22]

Manger said take 2 rows every day and no shared van thankgod ..so no real big changes in our office that I can see thankgod

[qwerty2]

Although what's the point in delivering the Radio Times on a 1c only day when RM are clearly telling everybody no 2c mail will be delivered on a 1c only day?

The more 2C (coincidentals or not) that can go out on the light day, the less heavy the heavy day. It's, uh, almost as if we should just clear every walk every day.

The only extra 2C that could go out would be the manual letters and flats, the mech will get held by the DTS if it's a non-2C day. I don't think RM have decided yet what will happen with any 2C/DSA that has hit the time limit for the product but where it's a non-2C day.

I think RM should look into feeding data into the DTS algorithm from any flat sorting or packet sorting machines. There must be loads of times where a DP has got a flat or a packet that has been sorted by machine but no mech 1C letter. In them cases it'd allow the mail for them DPs to be released.

Or perhaps RM could buy in machines which sort everything, we now have machines sorting 1c mail, another sorting flats etc and another doing 2c MECH, why not just have one machine doing the whole lot?

"why not just have one machine doing the whole lot?" - humans did it - but they cost too much money

[jessicarabbit]

The oversized duty idea is the final solution....if you'll pardon the pun. The problem is RM haven't got enough planners numerically and also with the skills required to do that quickly enough. This is supposed to be a quick and dirty method that cuts the numbers down quickly then we can spend the next 3 years ironing out the issues then the new wave of super planners with their AI tools can come in and do the revisions properly.

Heaven help us all

[menditsa]

Why don't Royal Mail separate the tracked parcels into a new company just delivering those parcels called "Royal Mail Parcels" ?

Then there would be no need for this shitshow way of working.

Oh they did 40 years ago

[Rommagic]

Are they covering people on rest days under dm26 trail offices? Meaning always three people per four walks?.

[Mr Rush]

Why don't Royal Mail separate the tracked parcels into a new company just delivering those parcels called "Royal Mail Parcels" ?

Then there would be no need for this shitshow way of working.

That's what the light side of DM26 is: RMP with 1C bolted on. Meanwhile on the heavy side it's, err, RMP with all the letters bolted on.

I'll pre-empt the union's standard response by saying that spinning off RMP(2) would basically be GLS UK (if Parcelforce aren't already there) and what remains of RM Letters would quickly be reorganised to resemble our counterparts on the continent. What a nightmare that would be. But if you're patient we'll get there in three years anyway.

[postslippete]

The incentives under DM26 don't appear to be the same for everyone

The singleton duties are inevitably going to be the most desirable because the posties can control their own frame everyday and are not relying on anyone else to clear their work and, if they work harder or get ahead, then they will directly benefit from it.

Van shares appear to be the ones where the savings are expected to come from through deferred work and are therefore likely to come under the greatest pressure. We are already seeing this in our office, with the singletons generally completing their own rounds every day and/or picking up additional work as overtime indoors and outdoors, while paired duties depend entirely on another person's work ethic. If you're both on the same page that's great, but RM have combined the inefficiencies of van shares (where the driver usually ends up taking most of the responsibility) with the added complexity of working in a pod of 3 to complete 4 duties. So you're no longer relying on your OP but also partly responsible for other rounds that may or may not be cleared.

Given that singletons and pairings are unlikely to consistently help each other then properly planned oversized duties seems a much simpler solution. Everyone would have ownership of their own workloads, the accountability would be clearer and there would be less dependencies on other people.