9 day fortnight

[postmanzach]

why is it called a 9 day fortnight?

Because you work 9 days out of 14.

yeah realised this soon after wrote it, coffee was needed.

[postmanzach]

strange to go into 9 day fortnight before the big change.

[Thommo44]

I’m taking it that all patterns mentioned are for full timers? 35/37 hours per week.
Just an example, if you’re on a 35 hour week, 70 hours a fortnight, 70 hours divided by 9 days would be 7.75 hour days? So someone on a 30 hour contract would only be working 4 days a week every week?

no we have part timers on 30 hours following same day rotation. wouldn’t be fair otherwise.
maybe one or two new people are not on it but it’s not always possible to get people into the rotation and course they do some sundays also.

Since when has anything RM or CWU do been about fairness? If seniority applies to everything how can it be fair?
As I said earlier, finishing times need to be uniform and rounds should be manageable. Not everyone wants full time hours and the likelihood is the changes will result in longer days, therefore 4 longer days or 5 shorter days is the only option. Overtime is cheaper for the employer, but either side can refuse it

[norris9]

Since when has anything RM or CWU do been about fairness? If seniority applies to everything how can it be fair? As I said earlier, finishing times need to be uniform and rounds should be manageable. Not everyone wants full time hours and the likelihood is the changes will result in longer days, therefore 4 longer days or 5 shorter days is the only option. Overtime is cheaper for the employer, but either side can refuse it

Yeah, part time employees may not want to go full time if they are going to make full timers work a 9 hour+ day. Yet the CWU are getting excited about offering a lot of part timers full time roles because of the nature of the USO change. It isn't that exciting if we are working a 9 hour+ day which involves walking ridiculous distances. The CWU have also talked about the concern of fatigue - I don't know how you resolve fatigue issues by making us work 5 days straight and making us work long 4 hour days....

Maybe get us another 2 weeks paid annual leave so we can rest?

[postmanzach]

I’m taking it that all patterns mentioned are for full timers? 35/37 hours per week.
Just an example, if you’re on a 35 hour week, 70 hours a fortnight, 70 hours divided by 9 days would be 7.75 hour days? So someone on a 30 hour contract would only be working 4 days a week every week?

no we have part timers on 30 hours following same day rotation. wouldn’t be fair otherwise.
maybe one or two new people are not on it but it’s not always possible to get people into the rotation and course they do some sundays also.

Since when has anything RM or CWU do been about fairness? If seniority applies to everything how can it be fair?
As I said earlier, finishing times need to be uniform and rounds should be manageable. Not everyone wants full time hours and the likelihood is the changes will result in longer days, therefore 4 longer days or 5 shorter days is the only option. Overtime is cheaper for the employer, but either side can refuse it

they often don’t and say they are going to finish on their time (around 3pm) when duty finish time around 5pm.

[postslippete]

Yeah, part time employees may not want to go full time if they are going to make full timers work a 9 hour+ day. Yet the CWU are getting excited about offering a lot of part timers full time roles because of the nature of the USO change. It isn't that exciting if we are working a 9 hour+ day which involves walking ridiculous distances. The CWU have also talked about the concern of fatigue - I don't know how you resolve fatigue issues by making us work 5 days straight and making us work long 4 hour days....

Maybe get us another 2 weeks paid annual leave so we can rest?

The Union of yesteryear proposed a 35 hour working week to combat fatigue. The savings that RM would make through automation were supposed to help pay for these changes but instead the business paid out bonuses for managers instead. Working longer hours in this job leads to increased fatigue and reduced productivity and the evidence for this is that fewer people want to work their days off and the few people who do only every work it if they are on a half decent round working on their own.

[A2B]

Maybe that's the story in your office but we have people begging to work their rest days but can't due to overtime ban.

[postmanzach]

Maybe that's the story in your office but we have people begging to work their rest days but can't due to overtime ban.

if work is being left because of a overtime ban someone should make an anonymous call to local MP and tell them
what’s going on, tell them
to come down and take a look.

[A2B]

Maybe that's the story in your office but we have people begging to work their rest days but can't due to overtime ban.

if work is being left because of a overtime ban someone should make an anonymous call to local MP and tell them
what’s going on, tell them
to come down and take a look.

It's been in the media up and down the UK, nobody including the CWU have or will change the route RM are taking