Anyone know the expected parcel per hour delivery rate?

[qw]

It’s naughty to tell fibs, try and stop that sort of behaviour yeah?

Sad but true - no fibs there! Although it is exceedingly rare - usually the first or second neighbour is home - I will go up to 10 in total if needed. Been doing multidrop this way for years. Other industry players expect it - Hived, FedEx, even Amazon (though bad Amazon drivers just blatantly doorstep).

I am paid to make successful deliveries, at first attempt, not bring them back. Bringing a parcel back should be a rare exception, not a regular occurrence. Having an empty van at the end of the round is my priority and end goal. By way of example, today I brought back one package (out of 135) as the customer had an opt-out, meaning I couldn’t try a neighbour etc. That was the first bring-back for over a week…

I said don’t tell fibs.

Lying isn’t a very nice trait.

[guardianangel]

I card everyone...

...that is out too! "Shed", "Side of bin", "In bin" (when pouring down), "under patio table", "tucked under front of car top of drive". Zero brought back. Get it delivered and move on. Zero complaints.

I've now been getting the odd "Safe place opt out" pop up on my PDA which, sadly, puts an end to that fortunately found neighbours who take them so they now have the hassle to getting from them!

Only if its safe and secure,its not the person recieving decision its the sender,under the patio table or green bin is not safe and i still card ,no complaints yet and if i do i'll then do what the lino tells me to do,you can be sure he wont put his head on the block and we will do it my way,on your pda there is an option to put safeplace not safe and i use it all the time,just remember more 739's and collections mean less walking that is what they want stop trying to make it easier for them.

[Basildon Bond]

...just remember more 739's and collections mean less walking that is what they want stop trying to make it easier for them.

To be clear... are you saying more carding and collections means less walking because you cut off and bring a bag or two or more back?

If so check out this post on the Being threatened with gross misconduct for bringing back mail. thread...

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by bluempl » Yesterday, 22:13

They've successfully banned cutting off in our office for several months now. Whatever you take out has to be delivered or you'll be suspended and then sacked. Still putting tracked above all too

If RM push for a ban on cutting off nationally (say, initially an office here and an office there but getting it to spread quickly) whilst promoting/pushing/forcing first attempt delivery success it'll squeeze our options and we'll ultimately have to be "faster" per drop and not be looking to bring too much if anything back.

You can be sure that the pressure will land at our feet to figure out how to complete with more items but in the same amount of hours.

[guardianangel]

...just remember more 739's and collections mean less walking that is what they want stop trying to make it easier for them.

To be clear... are you saying more carding and collections means less walking because you cut off and bring a bag or two or more back?

If so check out this post on the Being threatened with gross misconduct for bringing back mail. thread...

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by bluempl » Yesterday, 22:13

They've successfully banned cutting off in our office for several months now. Whatever you take out has to be delivered or you'll be suspended and then sacked. Still putting tracked above all too

If RM push for a ban on cutting off nationally (say, initially an office here and an office there but getting it to spread quickly) whilst promoting/pushing/forcing first attempt delivery success it'll squeeze our options and we'll ultimately have to be "faster" per drop and not be looking to bring too much if anything back.

You can be sure that the pressure will land at our feet to figure out how to complete with more items but in the same amount of hours.

They have been trying that for years ,stay strong take out less so your round is achievable ,always have a witness around when you tell them what you think is achievable ,once you have told them the ball is in their court,while we are still employees being paid hourly no judge would ever side with them. They are bullies ,do everything by the book ,health and safety is your friend ,use it.

[mwalker88]

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Not least because attitudes and work ethics like that will make you unemployable. You should thank your lucky stars RM employ you — nowhere else would let you behave in such a way.

I can assure you the majority of Delivery posties, who have worked at RM for the last 5+ years would be snapped up by any prospective employers.

All your posts are just you spewing verbal diarreah on this forum.

Stop being a troll.

[postslippete]

Being paid on a time basis, rather than per successful delivery, why wouldn’t you do everything possible to ensure your customer gets his new coffee machine that he’s been excitedly awaiting all day but missed as he had to do the school run? Or the old lady at number 20 getting her painkillers posted by the pharmacy? I could go on.

Sure you could. Until you have a revision and find that you can't try 10 neighbours anymore because the business isn't willing to pay you any overtime to get the round completed. You might find that is when your good deed ends unless you're daft enough to either run round or work unpaid.

[TopperGas]

I card everyone...

...that is out too! "Shed", "Side of bin", "In bin" (when pouring down), "under patio table", "tucked under front of car top of drive". Zero brought back. Get it delivered and move on. Zero complaints.

I've now been getting the odd "Safe place opt out" pop up on my PDA which, sadly, puts an end to that fortunately found neighbours who take them so they now have the hassle to getting from them!

Only if its safe and secure,its not the person recieving decision its the sender,under the patio table or green bin is not safe and i still card ,no complaints yet and if i do i'll then do what the lino tells me to do,you can be sure he wont put his head on the block and we will do it my way,on your pda there is an option to put safeplace not safe and i use it all the time,just remember more 739's and collections mean less walking that is what they want stop trying to make it easier for them.

More 739's mean more walking back to the same house every day, I've not had any complaints finding a "safe place" if there's one available.

[Smoothbackground]

I can assure you the majority of Delivery posties, who have worked at RM for the last 5+ years would be snapped up by any prospective employers.

All your posts are just you spewing verbal diarreah on this forum.

Stop being a troll.

Give an example of the diarrhoea I spew then?

Snapped up? You must be delirious!

Go try it then, mate. Absolutely nowhere else in industry— I repeat, nowhere — will put up with the work ethics proudly “spewed” by some members on this forum. We are in the 21st century! Employers this century want flexible, motivated employees who are prepared to go the extra mile. They want to run their businesses without interference and meddling from troublemakers. They want employees to be generally compliant with instructions given by managers and to be manageable. They won’t consult a union over something as simple as turning a light switch on or off. Employers expect a lot in this new world, chum! Except, of course, in Royal Mail, where belligerence, obstinance, rudeness and defiance is rife. No employer wants staff with those traits — even Royal Mail! Turning up and doing the minimum is not something you’ll get away with in many/any employers bar RM. Time to shape up or move on, I say. If the grass is greener like you say, go and try it!

Please understand I AM NOT tarring all longstanding employees with this brush. As I have been at pains to highlight elsewhere on this forum, the vast majority, say 85% odd, of those employees are hardworking, decent people who do an excellent job. But there is a sizeable minority of people with these anti-work attitudes that you espouse and endorse above.

[Smoothbackground]

And can I say that I am definitely not a “troll”! I didn’t drag the thread off topic by trolling or being provocative. The thread is about drops per hour and I was engaging with that topic before it was dragged off-piste by others.

[yellowbelly]

I can assure you the majority of Delivery posties, who have worked at RM for the last 5+ years would be snapped up by any prospective employers.

All your posts are just you spewing verbal diarreah on this forum.

Stop being a troll.

Give an example of the diarrhoea I spew then?

Snapped up? You must be delirious!

Go try it then, mate. Absolutely nowhere else in industry— I repeat, nowhere — will put up with the work ethics proudly “spewed” by some members on this forum. We are in the 21st century! Employers this century want flexible, motivated employees who are prepared to go the extra mile. They want to run their businesses without interference and meddling from troublemakers. They want employees to be generally compliant with instructions given by managers and to be manageable. They won’t consult a union over something as simple as turning a light switch on or off. Employers expect a lot in this new world, chum! Except, of course, in Royal Mail, where belligerence, obstinance, rudeness and defiance is rife. No employer wants staff with those traits — even Royal Mail! Turning up and doing the minimum is not something you’ll get away with in many/any employers bar RM. Time to shape up or move on, I say. If the grass is greener like you say, go and try it!

Please understand I AM NOT tarring all longstanding employees with this brush. As I have been at pains to highlight elsewhere on this forum, the vast majority, say 85% odd, of those employees are hardworking, decent people who do an excellent job. But there is a sizeable minority of people with these anti-work attitudes that you espouse and endorse above.

Do you 'just' do parcels? It sounds like it. No wonder you're getting a bit of grief on here as most of the posters on here will be plodding from door to door delivering letters as well as delivering parcels/packets and absolutely DO NOT have time within their contracted hours to try 10 neighbours to get rid of a parcel 'first time, every time'.

[Smoothbackground]

I mostly do just parcels, though I do do a couple of loops on top here and there, usually quite easy ones admittedly, as well as the odd day on a walk if needed. You are totally right to point out the distinction, and thank you for doing so. To clarify, my comments in this thread are confined to the subject of this thread — which is about expected parcels per hour.

Also on the subject of clarification, I should clarify that I said up to 10 neighbours in all. Other than pressing 10 flat buzzers simultaneously, I can’t readily recall ever getting past five neighbours’ doors before managing to home a parcel. Given you normally know if someone is home within 15 seconds or so, it obviously doesn’t take too long to bang up a few doors.

[Smoothbackground]

Ps - though in my office “parcels” means anything that is tracked, so lots of envelopes, passports, SDs, as well as the big and large stuff. But I definitely appreciate and agree with your point that a postie on a full walk doesn’t have the luxury of time on his side, so thanks again for clarifying.

[heapsy]

20 parcels per hour or 20 delivery points per hour?

Yes, but when I'm on LATs the average is 15. Really depends the size of area you are covering.

[TopperGas]

20 parcels per hour or 20 delivery points per hour?

Yes, but when I'm on LATs the average is 15. Really depends the size of area you are covering.

LATs are a different beast where you usually cover far more distance between each drop.

[guardianangel]

I can assure you the majority of Delivery posties, who have worked at RM for the last 5+ years would be snapped up by any prospective employers.

All your posts are just you spewing verbal diarreah on this forum.

Stop being a troll.

Give an example of the diarrhoea I spew then?

Snapped up? You must be delirious!

Go try it then, mate. Absolutely nowhere else in industry— I repeat, nowhere — will put up with the work ethics proudly “spewed” by some members on this forum. We are in the 21st century! Employers this century want flexible, motivated employees who are prepared to go the extra mile. They want to run their businesses without interference and meddling from troublemakers. They want employees to be generally compliant with instructions given by managers and to be manageable. They won’t consult a union over something as simple as turning a light switch on or off. Employers expect a lot in this new world, chum! Except, of course, in Royal Mail, where belligerence, obstinance, rudeness and defiance is rife. No employer wants staff with those traits — even Royal Mail! Turning up and doing the minimum is not something you’ll get away with in many/any employers bar RM. Time to shape up or move on, I say. If the grass is greener like you say, go and try it!

Please understand I AM NOT tarring all longstanding employees with this brush. As I have been at pains to highlight elsewhere on this forum, the vast majority, say 85% odd, of those employees are hardworking, decent people who do an excellent job. But there is a sizeable minority of people with these anti-work attitudes that you espouse and endorse above.

Your wrong every single person that has left our place have been snapped up ,all of them have found decent employment within weeks of leaving,there is life after Royal Mail and the more our contracts get hammered the more will leave,we have had 3 new starters quit already because they were told they would work 1 in 4 Sundays and guess what they are working 3 in 4 because they cant recruit people on the new contract,you are delusional if you think people will put up with the way royal mail treat their employees,something needs to change quick not just in royal mail but the whole delivery sector,Amazon are struggling to recruit now and their amazon flex workers (from my mate who works there)are starting to become very unreliable,lots of their prime deliveries are falling short. As you reminded us this is the 21st century not the 18th as royal mail and other delivery companies would lead you to believe.