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1000 redundancies

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yellowbelly
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Re: 1000 redundancies

Post by yellowbelly »

R5001 wrote:
14 Apr 2024, 13:20
SpacePhoenix wrote:
14 Apr 2024, 12:45
kazardaimenu wrote:
14 Apr 2024, 11:43
You can still take half your break at the end of shift just not the whole break.
You'll need to physically be in the office to scan out at your official finish time when pay gets linked to SISO otherwise you're going to loose half however long the break last in pay
The dashboard for siso has a meal break toggle, it's accounted for.
That's good to know, but I wonder how many offices where it's been the accepted practice that you can take twenty minutes at the end
that this toggle has been actually been 'switched on' by the local management?
Barnacle
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Re: 1000 redundancies

Post by Barnacle »

yellowbelly wrote:
15 Apr 2024, 11:46
R5001 wrote:
14 Apr 2024, 13:20
SpacePhoenix wrote:
14 Apr 2024, 12:45
kazardaimenu wrote:
14 Apr 2024, 11:43
You can still take half your break at the end of shift just not the whole break.
You'll need to physically be in the office to scan out at your official finish time when pay gets linked to SISO otherwise you're going to loose half however long the break last in pay
The dashboard for siso has a meal break toggle, it's accounted for.
That's good to know, but I wonder how many offices where it's been the accepted practice that you can take twenty minutes at the end
that this toggle has been actually been 'switched on' by the local management?
That’s what I was wondering because when our office enforced SISO, you had to stay until the real finishing time. So it is possibly a toggle that can be activated or not?
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scotchy1962
EX ROYAL MAIL
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Re: 1000 redundancies

Post by scotchy1962 »

Barnacle wrote:
15 Apr 2024, 11:50
yellowbelly wrote:
15 Apr 2024, 11:46
R5001 wrote:
14 Apr 2024, 13:20
SpacePhoenix wrote:
14 Apr 2024, 12:45
kazardaimenu wrote:
14 Apr 2024, 11:43
You can still take half your break at the end of shift just not the whole break.
You'll need to physically be in the office to scan out at your official finish time when pay gets linked to SISO otherwise you're going to loose half however long the break last in pay
The dashboard for siso has a meal break toggle, it's accounted for.
That's good to know, but I wonder how many offices where it's been the accepted practice that you can take twenty minutes at the end
that this toggle has been actually been 'switched on' by the local management?
That’s what I was wondering because when our office enforced SISO, you had to stay until the real finishing time. So it is possibly a toggle that can be activated or not?
Like everything in RM it probably is a office by office thing with variations all over the place, this has always been the case and no real surprise. My advice would be clock out on time, try to not worry what happens elsewhere in this company and remember there is no consistancy in RM, every delivery office has been historically different for a very long time and it probably won't change anytime soon. But what do i know?
SpacePhoenix
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Re: 1000 redundancies

Post by SpacePhoenix »

scotchy1962 wrote:
15 Apr 2024, 13:52
Barnacle wrote:
15 Apr 2024, 11:50
yellowbelly wrote:
15 Apr 2024, 11:46
R5001 wrote:
14 Apr 2024, 13:20
SpacePhoenix wrote:
14 Apr 2024, 12:45
kazardaimenu wrote:
14 Apr 2024, 11:43
You can still take half your break at the end of shift just not the whole break.
You'll need to physically be in the office to scan out at your official finish time when pay gets linked to SISO otherwise you're going to loose half however long the break last in pay
The dashboard for siso has a meal break toggle, it's accounted for.
That's good to know, but I wonder how many offices where it's been the accepted practice that you can take twenty minutes at the end
that this toggle has been actually been 'switched on' by the local management?
That’s what I was wondering because when our office enforced SISO, you had to stay until the real finishing time. So it is possibly a toggle that can be activated or not?
Like everything in RM it probably is a office by office thing with variations all over the place, this has always been the case and no real surprise. My advice would be clock out on time, try to not worry what happens elsewhere in this company and remember there is no consistancy in RM, every delivery office has been historically different for a very long time and it probably won't change anytime soon. But what do i know?
Once they do link pay to SISO, they need to have the use of the end of break flag standardised everywhere otherwise you'll have one DO where they get their pay docked and one next door where they don't get their pay docked. Either they allow staff to take part their break at the end or they don't. My gut feeling is that they'll insist on the break being taken before you head out.
TopperGas
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Re: 1000 redundancies

Post by TopperGas »

Why would you have a gut feeling about DO's when you don't work in one?
SpacePhoenix
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Re: 1000 redundancies

Post by SpacePhoenix »

TopperGas wrote:
15 Apr 2024, 21:46
Why would you have a gut feeling about DO's when you don't work in one?
Pay linked to SISO will affect all types of office, not just DOs
HTPostman
EX ROYAL MAIL
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Re: 1000 redundancies

Post by HTPostman »

Did anyone have ‘gut feeling’ on the bingo card?
The day is gonna come when we’re all gonna have to testify.

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LouBarlow
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Re: 1000 redundancies

Post by LouBarlow »

We have been clocking out 20 minutes early since clocking out was even a thing. Given we are hauled into the office if we clock out 21 minutes before our finish time, I’d say it is not a problem. Might this change in the future? Possibly.
Nickvilla20
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Re: 1000 redundancies

Post by Nickvilla20 »

LouBarlow wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 05:22
We have been clocking out 20 minutes early since clocking out was even a thing. Given we are hauled into the office if we clock out 21 minutes before our finish time, I’d say it is not a problem. Might this change in the future? Possibly.
We haven’t been able to take our 20 minutes on the end since SISO came in. Sometime we are just sitting round waiting to sign out.
Rommagic
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Re: 1000 redundancies

Post by Rommagic »

20 mins break at the end my office is saying.
LouBarlow
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Re: 1000 redundancies

Post by LouBarlow »

Nickvilla20 wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 05:30
LouBarlow wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 05:22
We have been clocking out 20 minutes early since clocking out was even a thing. Given we are hauled into the office if we clock out 21 minutes before our finish time, I’d say it is not a problem. Might this change in the future? Possibly.
We haven’t been able to take our 20 minutes on the end since SISO came in. Sometime we are just sitting round waiting to sign out.
Does your office clear every day?
Nickvilla20
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Re: 1000 redundancies

Post by Nickvilla20 »

LouBarlow wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 06:13
Nickvilla20 wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 05:30
LouBarlow wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 05:22
We have been clocking out 20 minutes early since clocking out was even a thing. Given we are hauled into the office if we clock out 21 minutes before our finish time, I’d say it is not a problem. Might this change in the future? Possibly.
We haven’t been able to take our 20 minutes on the end since SISO came in. Sometime we are just sitting round waiting to sign out.
Does your office clear every day?
It was when it was implemented but lack of staff and poor revisions put an end to that. I really don’t understand how offices seem to have different rules the office I transferred from was run completely different to the one I’m at now.
LouBarlow
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Joined: 15 Oct 2007, 18:56

Re: 1000 redundancies

Post by LouBarlow »

Nickvilla20 wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 06:47
LouBarlow wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 06:13
Nickvilla20 wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 05:30
LouBarlow wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 05:22
We have been clocking out 20 minutes early since clocking out was even a thing. Given we are hauled into the office if we clock out 21 minutes before our finish time, I’d say it is not a problem. Might this change in the future? Possibly.
We haven’t been able to take our 20 minutes on the end since SISO came in. Sometime we are just sitting round waiting to sign out.
Does your office clear every day?
It was when it was implemented but lack of staff and poor revisions put an end to that. I really don’t understand how offices seem to have different rules the office I transferred from was run completely different to the one I’m at now.
There is no pattern to it. We clear every day. The office just ten miles down the road, is an utter shambles. They both operate under the same area managers, so it must be office managers ultimately to blame.
Dorset Plodder
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Re: 1000 redundancies

Post by Dorset Plodder »

I would willingly take my full Meal Relief sat in the DO at the end of my day ....... If the Lazy Skiving Manager was sat there next to me! :cuppa
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Mr Rush
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Re: 1000 redundancies

Post by Mr Rush »

Dorset Plodder wrote:
06 Aug 2024, 15:56
I would willingly take my full Meal Relief sat in the DO at the end of my day ....... If the Lazy Skiving Manager was sat there next to me! :cuppa
Ours are now forced to be present until, and often beyond, our new finish times. I can absolutely testify that the misery on their faces softens my own anguish. I don't know what to call that - it's not really schadenfreude.
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