WTL regarding drink and drugs

[Tman]

The employer's duty of care for the employee, and their workmates?
Pretty basic stuff really.

[FirstPost]

The employer's duty of care for the employee, and their workmates?
Pretty basic stuff really.

Duty of care? Was that when there was a red weather warning?

[oypostie]

Duty of care? Was that when there was a red weather warning?

Didn't you get the free can of drink

[enskied]

Does this apply to managers as well?

Exactly. I know two who have a habit for powder

[Perseus]

Now, I'm not one to create a totally unlikely situation, but given that a lot of our staff socialise together, and we won't be unique in that - what happens if a driving and non driving pairing both come in to work clearly a little worse for wear on a Saturday morning. Driver gets tested and offered Support and Rehab. No S and R for the person who doesn't drive?

[twoloops]

So has the CWU agreed to drink & drug testing with Royal Mail?

[Perseus]

So has the CWU agreed to drink & drug testing with Royal Mail?

Theres an LTB on the first page, yes.

[thefox]

Now, I'm not one to create a totally unlikely situation, but given that a lot of our staff socialise together, and we won't be unique in that - what happens if a driving and non driving pairing both come in to work clearly a little worse for wear on a Saturday morning. Driver gets tested and offered Support and Rehab. No S and R for the person who doesn't drive?

No because the non driver isn't driving a lump of metal capable of killing people if not driven correctly.

[nuklearpuppy]

Almost remember van sharing with an alcoholic. Steaming drunk and loud in the mornings. Manager just told him to settle down with a coffee before driving out. Mad when I look back .

[Perseus]

Now, I'm not one to create a totally unlikely situation, but given that a lot of our staff socialise together, and we won't be unique in that - what happens if a driving and non driving pairing both come in to work clearly a little worse for wear on a Saturday morning. Driver gets tested and offered Support and Rehab. No S and R for the person who doesn't drive?

No because the non driver isn't driving a lump of metal capable of killing people if not driven correctly.

But not worthy any support/rehab? That is the route the CWU/RM want to take it down.

[Tman]

Someone has drink/drug issues and it's the employer's responsibility to fix it?
I suppose they'd want to do any remedial actions in work time too?

[thefox]

Now, I'm not one to create a totally unlikely situation, but given that a lot of our staff socialise together, and we won't be unique in that - what happens if a driving and non driving pairing both come in to work clearly a little worse for wear on a Saturday morning. Driver gets tested and offered Support and Rehab. No S and R for the person who doesn't drive?

No because the non driver isn't driving a lump of metal capable of killing people if not driven correctly.

But not worthy any support/rehab? That is the route the CWU/RM want to take it down.

Is there not help available for people with addiction issues within the business just now.

[Perseus]

Yes, there is help for anyone who asks for it within Royal Mail. This new agreement reads like a type of intervention with a strong focus on support and rehab. On the face of it, dismissal seems to be way, way down the road.

[monkeybuisness]

I’ve noticed in our office the manager going down the frames first thing in the morning, chatting or should I say monitoring people ever since this came out last week. It’s obvious what he’s doing because he completely misses out the people on the HCT duties and moves to the next van share.