No delivery staff.. in delivery...

[Perseus]

I'm seeing a lot this past few weeks of people saying to solve all the issues 'put it back to 1 person 1 duty', or words to that effect.

Can someone explain this to me if it is a viable option as opposed to ODM or the CWU's 'heavy and light'.

8-9000 non drivers what do they do?

That's why I'm asking. There are people actively pushing for this type of way of working and it's gaining traction on social media. I'm just trying to work out if it's people pining for the glory days of the past or is it an actual costed and fully planned out alternative.

[SMS1969]

I'm seeing a lot this past few weeks of people saying to solve all the issues 'put it back to 1 person 1 duty', or words to that effect.

Can someone explain this to me if it is a viable option as opposed to ODM or the CWU's 'heavy and light'.

8-9000 non drivers what do they do?

That's why I'm asking. There are people actively pushing for this type of way of working and it's gaining traction on social media. I'm just trying to work out if it's people pining for the glory days of the past or is it an actual costed and fully planned out alternative.

How would that save money? More vans and no cutting down staff levels. And , like people have said, non drivers? It’s a non starter, would be great to be guaranteed to work solo though.

[Perseus]

That’s why I’m asking someone to explain it as it looks total pie in the sky and a total non starter.

[SMS1969]

That’s why I’m asking someone to explain it as it looks total pie in the sky and a total non starter.

Exactly that, no explanation required as it’s not saving money at all.

[fadetogrey63]

I'm seeing a lot this past few weeks of people saying to solve all the issues 'put it back to 1 person 1 duty', or words to that effect.

Can someone explain this to me if it is a viable option as opposed to ODM or the CWU's 'heavy and light'.

I know I get a lot more done on the odd occasion when I'm on my own doing my walk and packets, it's the van sharing with two merged walks that mess it all up.. But can't see it happening, would cost to much, it's the 3 in 4 that they want and that will be a even bigger mess.

[scotchy1962]

That’s why I’m asking someone to explain it as it looks total pie in the sky and a total non starter.

Have you been on a van share?
If yes then you should realise that they are consistently slower than singleton duties, there is the odd exception, as in two guys who are focused on what they are doing and how they do it, when i left i was on a van share with a 30 yr veteran and we could cope quite well and probably lost little time on delivery.
If you haven't then you need to realise that usually on van shares there ends up with someone being a passenger, not having a go at the passenger, but we all work at different speeds, some are fast walkers and door steppers some do the job to the letter, like i said no complaints, so that usually ends up with losing time and once you lose time there's no way back.
One person one duty is the best way to deliver but not the most economical.

[Perseus]

I've done every type of delivery past and present hence the reason I was asking if someone had come up with some new and original way that solves all the issues with ODM etc. 1 person 1 duty sounds like a very 'I'm alright Jack' type of attitude.

[dazzler123]

There is no room to suddenly double the amount of vans parked in an office

[A2B]

We have no van shares at the moment, we did have years ago but they didn't work so they took them out, to put them back in would be stupid but that's the current plan if the ODM goes ahead in it's current form.

As I've said before every office is different and there is no one plan that will suit every office, if your office has been moved to an industrial site in the middle of nowhere of course it's going to be reliant on vans but if you are in walking distance to a large portion of your workload then vans are less important and in many cases will slow you down.

To be honest the only comments I've seen about single duties were about people being more efficient and more likely to keep on top of the duty if they "own" it

[SpacePhoenix]

As I've said before every office is different and there is no one plan that will suit every office, if your office has been moved to an industrial site in the middle of nowhere of course it's going to be reliant on vans but if you are in walking distance to a large portion of your workload then vans are less important and in many cases will slow you down.

In the next few years I wouldn't put it past RM to move all DOs onto industrial estates. A couple of DOs locally 1 it's a VERY TIGHT fit for the lorry reversing into their yard. For another the lorry physically can't fit and has to park on the street.

[OikOik]

1 postie 1 walk will never happen..how many more vans would we need? It's a struggle as it is now to get a van.
My DO is in the middle of our workload but it's a ball ache with no van, nobody to do oversized, bags too heavy and have to keep walking back to the office.

[Mr Rush]

8-9000 non drivers what do they do?

The ODM will work so there definitely won't be loads of failed walks they can be sent out with on a Saturday.

[heraldmoth]

They will be on bonus plans for saving hours

That would fall under budget for which there is a bonus, no incentive to lose long term staff as it’s not cost effective to stick someone from angard on the RON app to cover packets only…unless the COM isn’t reporting failures properly

[heraldmoth]

I've done every type of delivery past and present hence the reason I was asking if someone had come up with some new and original way that solves all the issues with ODM etc. 1 person 1 duty sounds like a very 'I'm alright Jack' type of attitude.

Never going to reinvest in vans for that…first step is all DOs need to be fully staffed according to template not a template from 10 years ago…then 2nd class should b binned off on Saturdays and 4 duties into 3 on a Tuesday and Wednesday, what that looks like will be different in all offices but has to include rurals.

[TopperGas]

I've done every type of delivery past and present hence the reason I was asking if someone had come up with some new and original way that solves all the issues with ODM etc. 1 person 1 duty sounds like a very 'I'm alright Jack' type of attitude.

Never going to reinvest in vans for that…first step is all DOs need to be fully staffed according to template not a template from 10 years ago…then 2nd class should b binned off on Saturdays and 4 duties into 3 on a Tuesday and Wednesday, what that looks like will be different in all offices but has to include rurals.

Wednesday's are by far the busiest day's, why would you have reduced staff on that particular day? 2c on Saturday's should be dropped as a 1st stage then Tuesday's once RM have proved they can cope with the 1st stage.