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USO ODM extra trial

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ted_e_bear
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Re: USO ODM extra trial

Post by ted_e_bear »

TopperGas wrote:
24 Sep 2025, 19:21

I'm still waiting to hear how we'll all keep our own duties even though all our frames have now been marked blue or pink meaning that they'll only go out on alternative days, which suggests just 1 postie will now cover 2 duties when the changes are eventually introduced.
I think iirc the idea was to have monster duties planned that you were expected to do everything on one half plus parcels+1c on the other then the following day clear everything on the other half and parcels+1c on the half that got delivered the previous day.

That way you did stay on the same duty I suppose the theory would work for both van share and singleton although I reckon some of our resident heroes would still try to clear everything.
hewittinspain
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Re: USO ODM extra trial

Post by hewittinspain »

Start time
Finish time.
Let them push through whatever they want.
Document everything and do your best. PDA actuals works both ways.
They can't touch you on anything. If they want it to fail then let it.
Trumanity
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Re: USO ODM extra trial

Post by Trumanity »

hewittinspain wrote:
25 Sep 2025, 15:54
Start time
Finish time.
Let them push through whatever they want.
Document everything and do your best. PDA actuals works both ways.
They can't touch you on anything. If they want it to fail then let it.
Work safe and steady. Remember your health and that of your colleagues. Start at start time. Finish at finish time. Do not accept unroadworthy vans. Sign them off. Follow P739 and PDA procedures to the T. Do what they ask but it will be unreasonable and it will fail. Senior management have lied to EP about USO savings and based assumptions on faulty data. The cull is coming. :wave
Mr Rush
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Re: USO ODM extra trial

Post by Mr Rush »

ted_e_bear wrote:
25 Sep 2025, 15:20
I think iirc the idea was to have monster duties planned that you were expected to do everything on one half plus parcels+1c on the other then the following day clear everything on the other half and parcels+1c on the half that got delivered the previous day.
That idea has long since been reality. I can't wait to see the ODM fall flat. The lemon is fully squozen. It is a yellow rock now.

All the easy savings have already been made in the last 15-20 years, all (supposed) efficiency improvements have been identified and implemented, T&Cs are progressively thrown onto the bonfire, and of course wages have been driven down to almost minimum wage.

Hence the only savings that can be made and are being made today come from the under-provision of the USO. For the company to think we're currently over-providing service is to reveal RM HQ is located on Mars.
The machine stops.
TopperGas
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Re: USO ODM extra trial

Post by TopperGas »

ted_e_bear wrote:
25 Sep 2025, 15:20
TopperGas wrote:
24 Sep 2025, 19:21

I'm still waiting to hear how we'll all keep our own duties even though all our frames have now been marked blue or pink meaning that they'll only go out on alternative days, which suggests just 1 postie will now cover 2 duties when the changes are eventually introduced.
I think iirc the idea was to have monster duties planned that you were expected to do everything on one half plus parcels+1c on the other then the following day clear everything on the other half and parcels+1c on the half that got delivered the previous day.

That way you did stay on the same duty I suppose the theory would work for both van share and singleton although I reckon some of our resident heroes would still try to clear everything.
Basically you'll be expected to flip flop between two duties, but that still means somebody will be losing being the duty holder on one of those duties.
A2B
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Re: USO ODM extra trial

Post by A2B »

Trumanity wrote:
25 Sep 2025, 16:53
Senior management have lied to EP about USO savings and based assumptions on faulty data. The cull is coming. :wave
This is what I've been told recently as well but find it hard to believe that EP would not have been more thorough in their research before buying IDS
SkiSunday
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Re: USO ODM extra trial

Post by SkiSunday »

A2B wrote:
25 Sep 2025, 17:41
Trumanity wrote:
25 Sep 2025, 16:53
Senior management have lied to EP about USO savings and based assumptions on faulty data. The cull is coming. :wave
This is what I've been told recently as well but find it hard to believe that EP would not have been more thorough in their research before buying IDS
It's a quick profit before selling on to Amazon.
TopperGas
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Re: USO ODM extra trial

Post by TopperGas »

SkiSunday wrote:
25 Sep 2025, 18:22
A2B wrote:
25 Sep 2025, 17:41
Trumanity wrote:
25 Sep 2025, 16:53
Senior management have lied to EP about USO savings and based assumptions on faulty data. The cull is coming. :wave
This is what I've been told recently as well but find it hard to believe that EP would not have been more thorough in their research before buying IDS
It's a quick profit before selling on to Amazon.
Why would Amazon want to buy a mail delivery company?
A2B
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Re: USO ODM extra trial

Post by A2B »

SkiSunday wrote:
25 Sep 2025, 18:22
A2B wrote:
25 Sep 2025, 17:41
Trumanity wrote:
25 Sep 2025, 16:53
Senior management have lied to EP about USO savings and based assumptions on faulty data. The cull is coming. :wave
This is what I've been told recently as well but find it hard to believe that EP would not have been more thorough in their research before buying IDS
It's a quick profit before selling on to Amazon.
😭 Like Amazon would want anything to do with owning this company
SkiSunday
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Re: USO ODM extra trial

Post by SkiSunday »

TopperGas wrote:
25 Sep 2025, 18:26
SkiSunday wrote:
25 Sep 2025, 18:22
A2B wrote:
25 Sep 2025, 17:41
Trumanity wrote:
25 Sep 2025, 16:53
Senior management have lied to EP about USO savings and based assumptions on faulty data. The cull is coming. :wave
This is what I've been told recently as well but find it hard to believe that EP would not have been more thorough in their research before buying IDS
It's a quick profit before selling on to Amazon.
Why would Amazon want to buy a mail delivery company?
Mail delivery company... :left:
SkiSunday
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Re: USO ODM extra trial

Post by SkiSunday »

Amazon's whole MO is buying out their competition and amalgamating them into Amazon. :d'oh!
Acca Dacca
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Re: USO ODM extra trial

Post by Acca Dacca »

TopperGas wrote:
25 Sep 2025, 17:40
ted_e_bear wrote:
25 Sep 2025, 15:20
TopperGas wrote:
24 Sep 2025, 19:21

I'm still waiting to hear how we'll all keep our own duties even though all our frames have now been marked blue or pink meaning that they'll only go out on alternative days, which suggests just 1 postie will now cover 2 duties when the changes are eventually introduced.
I think iirc the idea was to have monster duties planned that you were expected to do everything on one half plus parcels+1c on the other then the following day clear everything on the other half and parcels+1c on the half that got delivered the previous day.

That way you did stay on the same duty I suppose the theory would work for both van share and singleton although I reckon some of our resident heroes would still try to clear everything.
Basically you'll be expected to flip flop between two duties, but that still means somebody will be losing being the duty holder on one of those duties.
Thats not what the proposal is

Its making the duties bigger but a van share would still work together doing the same two bigger duties - just instead of one duty being only 1st class and tracked it'd be half of one being rotated

The people who's walks they carve up to add onto everyone else, like the last revision, would lose their duty though
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A2B
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Re: USO ODM extra trial

Post by A2B »

SkiSunday wrote:
25 Sep 2025, 18:34
Amazon's whole MO is buying out their competition and amalgamating them into Amazon. :d'oh!
Lol :thumbup
A2B
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Re: USO ODM extra trial

Post by A2B »

Acca Dacca wrote:
25 Sep 2025, 18:38

Thats not what the proposal is

Its making the duties bigger but a van share would still work together doing the same two bigger duties - just instead of one duty being only 1st class and tracked it'd be half of one being rotated

The people who's walks they carve up to add onto everyone else, like the last revision, would lose their duty though
And if you have no van shares?
ted_e_bear
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Re: USO ODM extra trial

Post by ted_e_bear »

A2B wrote:
25 Sep 2025, 18:43
Acca Dacca wrote:
25 Sep 2025, 18:38

Thats not what the proposal is

Its making the duties bigger but a van share would still work together doing the same two bigger duties - just instead of one duty being only 1st class and tracked it'd be half of one being rotated

The people who's walks they carve up to add onto everyone else, like the last revision, would lose their duty though
And if you have no van shares?
You have a big oversized singleton and the same script applies. :thumbup